When Elsbeth Hegetschweiler was born on 17 December 1637, in Ottenbach, Zürich, Switzerland, her father, Joss Hegetschweiler, was 24 and her mother, Verena Häberling, was 21. She married Hans Berli on 28 October 1662, in Knonau, Zürich, Switzerland. They were the parents of at least 2 sons and 4 daughters. Elsbeth died 18 Feb 1718 Ottenbach, Zürich, Switzerland.
Berli Family from Ottenbach ZH
Post by Wolf “ Tue 3. Dec 2024, 19:12
The first Berli marriages according to the Zurich marriage database are
- ZH-Grossmünster 18.03.1528 Bechtinger, Hans, married with Berli, Elisabeth
- ZH-Grossmünster 19.02.1603 Kuth, Hans Jakob, Turbenthal, married Berli, Verena
- Hausen am Albis 22.09.1616 Berli, Jakob, Hausen am Albis, married to Schweizer, Margaretha, Albis
- Hausen am Albis 24.11.1616 Berli, Jakob, Ebertswil, married to Bosshard, Barbara, Ringlikon
- Hausen am Albis 21.01.1618 Berli, Ulrich, Heisch, married to Dubs, Barbara
Further marriages follow in Hausen am Albis.
According to the surname book, Berli have been naturalized in the Canton of Zurich in Hausen am Albis, Ottenbach and Rifferswil since before 1800. The first marriages are recorded there
- Rifferswil 12.12.1621 Berli, Heinrich, married to Gattiker, Margaretha
- Ottenbach 12.10.1641 Berli, Ulrich, Ottenbach, married to Hubschmid, Anna, Ottenbach
It therefore seems plausible that the Berli of Ottenbach (like Hans Berli) originally came from Hausen am Albis. However, only the Berli of Ottenbach will be discussed here.
See Berli of Hausen am Albis ZH for the lines remaining in Hausen and an emigration to Argentina in 1866.
[§] In den Bevölkerungsverzeichnissen Ottenbach wird 1637 als Geburtsjahr angegeben, ohne genaues Datum (im Gegensatz zu Ehefrau und Kindern): dies deutet darauf hin, dass er nicht in Ottenbach getauft wurde. Die hier genannte Taufe wurde geneanetentnommen: die Filiation erscheint plausibel, wurde aber nicht weiter kontrolliert.
Translation:
[In the Ottenbach population registers, 1637 is given as the year of birth, without an exact date (in contrast to his wife and children): this indicates that he was not baptized in Ottenbach. The baptism mentioned here was genealogized: the filiation seems plausible, but was not checked further.
Documents related to Hans Berli:
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| 1638 Hans Berli Baptism 15 July Record 1638 Hausen am Albis Parish Elisabetha's father, no film number on record |
(1638) 15. Julj: Hans
Jagli Berli vnd Margredt Schwÿtzer (today Schweizer)
Cathrÿna Bär von Hei...(?) / Hans Häberlig von Bickwyl
The family has been summarized on Hans Berli (1638-?) oo Elisabeth Hegetschweiler. Please, see also my questions on
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| 1670 Bevölkerungsverzeichnis Ottenbach Film 007765846 page 380 |
Wolf:
Hanß Berli & Elsi Hegenschweilerin
6. Annali (i.e. born 1664)
3. Elsbethli (i.e. born 1667)
1. Margrethli (i.e. born 1669)
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| 1678 Bevölkerungsverzeichnis Ottenbach Film 008126303 page 464 |
Wolf:
Hanß Berli anno 1637
Elßbeth Hegetschweilerin 17.12.1637
Annali 20.09.1663
Elßbethli 12.05.1667
Margrethli 07.11.1669
Annali 25.04.1672
Hanßeli 23.06.1674
Lisabethli 03.06.1677
Note: The fact that for Hanß (the father) no exact date is given, is likely an indication that he was not baptized in Ottenbach.
Hanß Berli anno 1637
Elßbeth Hegetschweilerin 17.12.1637
Annali 20.09.1663
Elßbethli 12.05.1667
Margrethli 07.11.1669
Annali 25.04.1672
Hanßeli 23.06.1674
Lisabethli 03.06.1677
Note: The fact that for Hanß (the father) no exact date is given, is likely an indication that he was not baptized in Ottenbach.
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| 1682 Bevölkerungsverzeichnis Ottenbach film 008126301 page 732 |
Wolf:
Hanß Berli anno 1637
Elßbeth Hegetschweilerin 17.12.1637
Elßbethli 12.05.1667
Margrethli 07.11.1669
Annali 25.04.1672
Hanseli 23.06.1674
Lisabethli 03.06.1677
Joß 26.10.1679
The fact that for Hanß (the father) no exact date is given, is likely an indication that he was not baptised in Ottenbach.
Hanß Berli anno 1637
Elßbeth Hegetschweilerin 17.12.1637
Elßbethli 12.05.1667
Margrethli 07.11.1669
Annali 25.04.1672
Hanseli 23.06.1674
Lisabethli 03.06.1677
Joß 26.10.1679
The fact that for Hanß (the father) no exact date is given, is likely an indication that he was not baptised in Ottenbach.
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| 1718 Elisabeth Hegetschweiler burial 18 Feb Ottenbach film 008014328 page 398 |
(1718) #4 den 18. Febr. Elisabetha Hegetswÿler, Hanß Berlis Sel(ig) Wittib zu Ottenbach.
... which tells us that Hans Berli (1638) had died before her - and at the same time confirms that the deceased in 1733 must be the son.
Note: This info has been incorporated in Hans Berli (1638-?) oo Elisabeth Hegetschweiler.
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| 1733 Hans Berli burial 29 Nov Ottenbach film 008014328 page 401 |
(1733) #20 Hanß Berli zu Ottenbach den 29. 9bris.
Thank you - unfortunately doesn't help a lot: nothing to help identify the deceased. However, as we have to decide between a Hans dying aged 59 (son) or 95 (father), I am pretty sure it is the son. Will be integrated in the son's description (to come).
Note: According to Peter Bertschinger both father and son Hans Berli died (or were buried) on 29.11.1733 - which is extremely unlikely: I assume the date refers to the son. However, it would be nice to see the death record, which hopefully will help to clarify the issue.
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| Peter BERTSCHINGER (pbertschinger1) |