Klaus or Niklaus Siedler was born on 7 July 1588, in Ottenbach, Zürich, Switzerland as the son of Jacob Siedler and Margreta Stierli. He married Barbara Siegrist on 1 May 1608, in Ottenbach, Zürich, Switzerland. They were the parents of 4 sons and 3 daughters.
Ottenbach-Tauf-15880707-Sidler-Claus.jpg ooI Ottenbach 01.05.1608 (Ehefrau Sigerstin geschrieben)
Ottenbach-Ehe-1608-0501-Sidler&Sigrist.jpgBarbara Sigrist, ≈ Ottenbach 20.04.1589, 1613 Tochter von Michel Sigrist (oo 25.04.1568) und Barbara Syz
Ottenbach-Tauf-1589-0420-Sigrist-Barbara.jpgTaufpatin des Neffen Fridli Sigrist (siehe Anmerkung beim Schwager Hans), + Ottenbach 15.06.1624
Kinder:
21.08.1610 Elsbeth, oo 14.01.1634 Fridli Häberling, + 28.07.1676
11.02.1612 Hans, oo 07.12.1647 Verena Hägi, + 01.08.1676
04.06.1615 Rudolf, oo 02.02.1658 Anna Grob, + 30.03.1693 (=264-2-3)
23.02.1617 Jakob, oo 02.02.1641 Maria Benz
21.02.1619 Josua
07.01.1621 Barbel, + 15.11.1628
* 14.06.1624 Margaretha, wird am 15.06.1624 getauft, verstirbt aber jung
* 14.06.1624 totgeborener Zwilling (die Mutter verstirbt am Tag nach der Geburt)
Ottenbach-Tauf-1624-Sidler-Margreth-Detail.jpg
Ottenbach-Tote-1624-Sigrist-Barbara.jpg
Niklaus Sidler (1588-?)
ooII Ottenbach 14.01.1634
Adelheid Walder, + 27.06.1679
Kinder:
21.12.1634 Verena, + 15.02.1635
27.11.1636 Elsbeth
16.03.1639 Heinrich
18.04.1641 Niklaus
15.11.1643 Joss, oo ..., + 05.06.1694
08.02.1646 Ulrich, oo ..., + 02.02.1684
04.04.1648 Hans Jakob, oo ...
Documents related to Niklaus Sidler:
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1588 Claus Sidler baptism 7 July Ottenbach film 008014328 page 52 |
[1588] 7 Julij
E: Jacob Sidler: Margareta Stierli
K: Claus
Z: Claus Cuonratel(?) od(er) Guott (Gut) / Anli Häberling. At this time surnames were seemingly not fixed in a way that they were more important than "nicknames": the witness was Claus Gut, better known as son(?) of Conrad(?). There is a similar case on the other page (2 Mar 1589: the father)..
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1589 Barbara Sigrist baptism 25 April Michel Sigrist and Barbara Hiz film 008014328 page 53 |
[1589] 20 Aprilis
E: Michel Sigerist, Barbara Siz (Syz)
K: Barbara
Z: Hans Lände(?) od(er) Steiner / Barbara Huber
Parents got married Ottenbach 25.04.1568.
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1608 Ottenbach marriages 1 May 1608 Nicklaus Sidler and Barbara Sigrist film 008014328 page 15 |
That's a short one:
[1608] 1 Maÿ
Claus Sÿdler
Barbara Sigerstin [Sigristin]
The family is summarized on 264-2) Niklaus Sidler ooI Barbara Sigrist, ooII Adelheid Walter.
(Sunday) 21. Novemb(ris) [1613]
E(ltern): Hans Sÿdler, Cathrin Kleinerin
K(ind): Fridli
Z(eugen): Fridli Häberlig, Barbel Sigeristin deß Bruders Frouw.
Note: So Barbara Sigrist is "the brother's wife" - brother of father or mother?
Note: If the father's brother, it would be a son of Johannes (born abt. 1547): I find Sidler, Niklaus, getraut mit Sigrist, Barbara … but no Niklaus as son of Johannes … did he have another son who has been missed so far? Could you check the marriage of 1608 - just in case it contains any useful information.
If the mother's brother, Barbara would be married to a Kleiner - but no suitable entry for either Sigrist, Sigerist nor Siegrist.
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1624 burial Barbara Sigrist Ottenbach film 008014328 page 175 |
Transcription: Barbel Sigeristin, Claus Sÿdlers frouw ist den 14.ten Junij [1624] zu zweÿen Kinden gnäsen, denn das erst läbendig, das ander [tod(?)], und (Tuesday) darnach am mittag gestorben.
Translation: Barbara Sigrist, Claus Sidler's wife, gave birth to two children on 14.06.1624, one alive, the other stillborn (not sure about "tod" - but nothing else makes sense). The mother died noon the following Tuesday. 14.06.1624 was a Friday, so the mother died 18.06.1624.
Correction: 14.06.1624 was a Friday, so the mother died 18.06.1624.
I have to correct this :-(. I had used the Gregorian Calendar - however, at the time the Julian Calendar was used in reformed parishes. Consequently 14.06.1624 was a Monday - and the mother died Tuesday 15.06.1624 - same day as Margret was baptised.
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1624 Barbara Sigrist twins births one baptism and one stillborn Ottenbach 15 June film 008014328 page 11 |
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1624 Barbara Sigrist twins births one baptism and one stillborn Ottenbach 15 June film 008014328 page 113 |
Wolf:
(Tuesday) 15. Jun(ij) [1624]
E(ltern): Hans Sÿdler zu Ottenbach, Barbel Sigeristin
K(ind): Margreth, Obijt
Z(eugen): Hans Göttschi, Wÿßbuben Stupf(?) sun / Margreth, Hans Häberligs des Sigisten Thochter
So Margreth died soon after baptism (days to months).
Hans Götschi was the son of Götschi the "Wÿßbuben Stupf(?)" (nickname).
Notes: Margreth Häberlig was the daughter of Hans, the Sigrist = church sexton, not to be confused with the surname.
I have included sniptes on Geneal-Forum: would you have names/dates missing for the following marriages?
11.02.1612 Hans, oo …
04.06.1615 Rudolf, oo …
23.02.1617 Jakob, oo …
15.11.1643 Joss, oo ...
08.02.1646 Ulrich, oo ...
Just names/dates, please - no copies of the records (unless you are interested - at some later stage)
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1634 Niclaus Sidler 2nd marriage to Adelheit Walder 14 Jan Ottenbach film 008014328 page 104 |
This is a tricky one - partly because 2 marriages are documented in a single sentence:
Niclous Sÿdler vnd Adelheit Walderin ouch von Ottenbach hand ire Eeen bestetten den 14.ten Jenner 1634.
... ouch von Ottenbach = auch von Ottenbach = from Ottenbach as well
Compare with #49: ... hand ir Ee bestettet = haben Ihre Ehe bestätigt = have confirmed their marriage.
... hand ire Eeen bestetten: Eeen = Ehen = (two) marriages / bestetten should likely be bestettet.
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1657 Niklaus Sidler burial 27 May Ottenbach film page 172 |
[1657] den 27.ten Maij
Clauß Sÿdler allhir zu Ottenbach