His second marriage was to Adelheit Walder. They had seven children together.
He died on 27 May 1657, in his hometown, at the age of 68, and was buried in Ottenbach, Zürich, Switzerland.
Parents: Margaretha Stierlin and Jacob Sidler baptism of Claus on 7 July 1588.
Wolf:
(Sunday) 21. Novemb(ris) [1613]
E(ltern): Hans Sÿdler, Cathrin Kleinerin
K(ind): Fridli
Z(eugen): Fridli Häberlig, Barbel Sigeristin deß Bruders Frouw.
Note: So Barbara Sigrist is "the brother's wife" - brother of father or mother?
Note: If the father's brother, it would be a son of Johannes (born abt. 1547): I find Sidler, Niklaus, getraut mit Sigrist, Barbara … but no Niklaus as son of Johannes … did he have another son who has been missed so far? Could you check the marriage of 1608 - just in case it contains any useful information.
If the mother's brother, Barbara would be married to a Kleiner - but no suitable entry for either Sigrist, Sigerist nor Siegrist.
Wolf:
This is a tricky one - partly because 2 marriages are documented in a single sentence:
Niclous Sÿdler vnd Adelheit Walderin ouch von Ottenbach hand ire Eeen bestetten den 14.ten Jenner 1634.
... ouch von Ottenbach = auch von Ottenbach = from Ottenbach as well
Compare with #49: ... hand ir Ee bestettet = haben Ihre Ehe bestätigt = have confirmed their marriage.
... hand ire Eeen bestetten: Eeen = Ehen = (two) marriages / bestetten should likely be bestettet.
Niklaus Sidler is the great great grandfather of Elisabetha Sidler1747-1831. See bottom of page.
Nicholas's father was Jacob Sidler born February 24, 1583, not September 22 1583. Billeter got the two confused. More on how this happened below. Jakob born February 24, 1583 FS ID: K2JD-NCS
Two Johannes and Hans Sidler were baptized in Ottenbach in 1583: Jacob's Joannes on 24.02.1583 and Hans Sidler's Joannes on 22.09.1583. As no bride's parents are mentioned in the marriage entries in Ottenbach at this time, it is not trivial to assign them. The baptismal entry for Fridli Sidler dated 21.11.1613 provides clarity here: the godmother is “Barbel Sigeristin deß Bruders Frouw”. The only chronologically matching marriage of a Barbara Sigrist (or similar) in the Zurich marriage database is that of 01.05.1608 in Ottenbach with Niklaus Sidler; a pair of brothers Niklaus and Johannes Sidler only exist as sons of Jakob Sidler. Attention: Billeter has assigned the “wrong” Joannes as the husband of Katharina Kleiner - an error that is occasionally passed on on the Internet.
Documents related to Niklaus Sidler:
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| 1588 Claus Sidler baptism 7 July Ottenbach film 008014328 page 52 |
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| 1589 Barbara Sigrist baptism 25 April Michel Sigrist and Barbara Hiz film 008014328 page 53 |
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| 1608 Ottenbach marriages 1 May 1608 Nicklaus Sidler and Barbara Sigrist film 008014328 page 15 |
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| Fridli Sidler born 21 November 1613 film 8014328 page 80 |
(Sunday) 21. Novemb(ris) [1613]
E(ltern): Hans Sÿdler, Cathrin Kleinerin
K(ind): Fridli
Z(eugen): Fridli Häberlig, Barbel Sigeristin deß Bruders Frouw.
Note: So Barbara Sigrist is "the brother's wife" - brother of father or mother?
Note: If the father's brother, it would be a son of Johannes (born abt. 1547): I find Sidler, Niklaus, getraut mit Sigrist, Barbara … but no Niklaus as son of Johannes … did he have another son who has been missed so far? Could you check the marriage of 1608 - just in case it contains any useful information.
If the mother's brother, Barbara would be married to a Kleiner - but no suitable entry for either Sigrist, Sigerist nor Siegrist.
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| 1624 burial Barbara Sigrist Ottenbach film 008014328 page 175 |
Wolf:
Transcription: Barbel Sigeristin, Claus Sÿdlers frouw ist den 14.ten Junij [1624] zu zweÿen Kinden gnäsen, denn das erst läbendig, das ander [tod(?)], und (Tuesday) darnach am mittag gestorben.
Translation: Barbara Sigrist, Claus Sidler's wife, gave birth to two children on 14.06.1624, one alive, the other stillborn (not sure about "tod" - but nothing else makes sense). The mother died noon the following Tuesday. 14.06.1624 was a Friday, so the mother died 18.06.1624.
Correction: 14.06.1624 was a Friday, so the mother died 18.06.1624.
I have to correct this :-(. I had used the Gregorian Calendar - however, at the time the Julian Calendar was used in reformed parishes. Consequently 14.06.1624 was a Monday - and the mother died Tuesday 15.06.1624 - same day as Margret was baptised.
Transcription: Barbel Sigeristin, Claus Sÿdlers frouw ist den 14.ten Junij [1624] zu zweÿen Kinden gnäsen, denn das erst läbendig, das ander [tod(?)], und (Tuesday) darnach am mittag gestorben.
Translation: Barbara Sigrist, Claus Sidler's wife, gave birth to two children on 14.06.1624, one alive, the other stillborn (not sure about "tod" - but nothing else makes sense). The mother died noon the following Tuesday. 14.06.1624 was a Friday, so the mother died 18.06.1624.
Correction: 14.06.1624 was a Friday, so the mother died 18.06.1624.
I have to correct this :-(. I had used the Gregorian Calendar - however, at the time the Julian Calendar was used in reformed parishes. Consequently 14.06.1624 was a Monday - and the mother died Tuesday 15.06.1624 - same day as Margret was baptised.
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| 1624 Barbara Sigrist twins births one baptism and one stillborn Ottenbach 15 June film 008014328 page 11 |
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| 1624 Barbara Sigrist twins births one baptism and one stillborn Ottenbach 15 June film 008014328 page 113 |
Wolf:
(Tuesday) 15. Jun(ij) [1624]
E(ltern): Hans Sÿdler zu Ottenbach, Barbel Sigeristin
K(ind): Margreth, Obijt
Z(eugen): Hans Göttschi, Wÿßbuben Stupf(?) sun / Margreth, Hans Häberligs des Sigisten Thochter
So Margreth died soon after baptism (days to months).
Hans Götschi was the son of Götschi the "Wÿßbuben Stupf(?)" (nickname).
Notes: Margreth Häberlig was the daughter of Hans, the Sigrist = church sexton, not to be confused with the surname.
I have included sniptes on Geneal-Forum: would you have names/dates missing for the following marriages?
11.02.1612 Hans, oo …
04.06.1615 Rudolf, oo …
23.02.1617 Jakob, oo …
15.11.1643 Joss, oo ...
08.02.1646 Ulrich, oo ...
Just names/dates, please - no copies of the records (unless you are interested - at some later stage).
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| 1634 Niclaus Sidler 2nd marriage to Adelheit Walder 14 Jan Ottenbach film 008014328 page 104 |
This is a tricky one - partly because 2 marriages are documented in a single sentence:
Niclous Sÿdler vnd Adelheit Walderin ouch von Ottenbach hand ire Eeen bestetten den 14.ten Jenner 1634.
... ouch von Ottenbach = auch von Ottenbach = from Ottenbach as well
Compare with #49: ... hand ir Ee bestettet = haben Ihre Ehe bestätigt = have confirmed their marriage.
... hand ire Eeen bestetten: Eeen = Ehen = (two) marriages / bestetten should likely be bestettet.
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| 1634 Nicholas Sidler in church census film 008126308 page 293 |
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| 1657 Niklaus Sidler burial 27 May Ottenbach film page 172 |
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| Billeter Temple Record, Sidler page 5 Below: Jakob Sidler FS ID: K2JD-NCS |
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| Billeter Temple Record, Sidler page 8 |
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| Billeter Temple Record, Sidler page 9 |