Wednesday, July 31, 2024

Hans Kaspar Sidler 1647 - 1713


When Hans Kaspar Sidler was born on 24 October 1647, in Ottenbach, Zürich, Switzerland, his father, Rudolf Sidler, was 35 and his mother, Veronica Frey, was 32. He married Barbara Gut on 11 December 1677, in Ottenbach, Zürich, Switzerland. They were the parents of at least 5 sons and 3 daughters. He died in Ottenbach.


Hans Kaspar Sidler, ≈ Ottenbach 24.10.1647, Sohn von Rudolf
oo Ottenbach 11.12.1677
Barbara Gut, ≈ 17.02.1656, + 06.05.1728
Kinder:
08.12.1678 Hans Rudolf, 14 December 1706 Anna Schneebeli, 08.12.1716 Adelheid Meili, + 31.01.1768
25.12.1680 Melchior, 15 November 1718 Katharina Sidler, + 26.08.1759
11.12.1682 Elsbeth, 13 February 1703 Rudolf Gut, + 07.06.1756
24.02.1685 Marx, oo ..., + 01.09.1746
03.07.1687 Hans Rudolf, + 17.01.1697
17.03.1689 Heinrich, oo ..., + 31.01.1757
17.03.1695 Anna, 09 December 1727 Hans Gut, + 08.10.1758I 14.12.1706
Sidler Lineage, a tale of two lines

The parents of the first generation of Sidler's we know of in Ottenbach were Johannes Sidler b abt 1574 and Magdalena Stälin. b abt 1550. They had 10 children. There is good documentation that three of their children married and had children. Verena Sidler b 1579-1628 married and had children but the Sidler line died with her because her husband was named Hans Mayer. 

However two Sidler family lines came from two of Verena's brothers:

1. Heinrich Sidler 1572-1623 (second child).  Five generations after Heinrich - Hans Kaspar Sidler was born 25 October 1705, in Ottenbach, Zürich.

2. Johannes Sidler 1583-+1625 (seventh child).  This is the line represented on this website. Five generations after Johannes - Hans Kaspar Sidler, 29 March 1705 -1768 was born. 

The two Sidler cousins were born 6 months 27 days apart. They lived in the same town, went to the same Kirche, ate the same food and both married and had children. Interestingly enough they were both Ehegaumers. The Kaspar Sidler represented on this site, who descended from Johannes, died 22 February 1768, while the  Kaspar Sidler from Heinrich's line died 23 Oct 1782 or 14 years 9 months and 1 day apart.

Documents related to Hans Kaspar Sidler: 
1647 Hans Kaspar Sidler baptism 24 Oct Ottenbach page 152 
Wolf:
Date: den 24. tag Octobris [1647]
Parents: b Rudlj Sÿdler zu Ottenbach, Fronegg Freÿin
Kinder: Hans Kaspar
Witnesses: Hans Kaspar Müller Pastor, Barbara Saltzmannin



1679 Bevölkerungsverzeichnisse religious abbreviations Film 007765846 page 380
Wolf: 
Nota. (transcription)
Explicatio numerorum et abbreviaturarum per totum Catalogum observanda.
Numerus parentibus praefixus denotat familias in quovis page.Numerus liberis in medio praefixus indicat annos aetatis eorum.Abbreviatturae postpositae innuunt scientiam ipsorum Catecheticam hoc modo notatam.
… Tenent et recitant …

Explanation of the numbers and abbreviations to be observed throughout the catalogue.
A number in front of the parents identifies the families on each page.
The number preceding the children in the centre indicates their age.

The following abbreviations indicate their catechetical knowledge labelled in this way.
... They understand and recite ...
Or.Do. >>> Orationem Dominicam (Sunday Prayer)
Symb. >>> Symbolum Apostolicum (Confession of faith)
Deca. >>> Decalogum (The Ten Commandments)
C.M.int. >>> Catechismum majorem integrum (Complete Large Catechism)
Q.CM.C. >>> Quaestiones Catechismi majoris ascriptas (Questions about the Large Catechism)
Testi. >>> Testimoniae Scripturaer Sacrae (The testimony of the Holy Scriptures)
Fr.int. >>> Fragmentae usquae ad Deca. Symb. Or.Do. (Fragments of the Ten Commandments, Confession of faith and Sunday Prayer)
Commu. >>> Communicantes coelibes ante S. [….] examinandi (Unmarried communicants prior to the ... exam)

1689 Kaspar Sidler Ottenbach Bevölkerungsverzeichnisse
film 8014133 page 336  

1695  church census Caspar "Sydler Barbara Gut Ottenbach
film 008014130 page 471 

1708 Kaspar Sidler Ottenbach film 007765851 page 653 

 1713 Kaspar Sidler burial father 31 May Ottenbach
film 008014328 page 397 
Wolf: 
Kaspar, Sÿdler Rodolffs ehel(iches) Söhnl(ein) daselbst d(ito) = 31. Maji [1713]
Kaspar, Sÿdler Rodolff's legitimate son there ditto = 31 May [1713]

1728 burial Barbara Gut 6 May Ottenbach page 400 
Wolf:
12. Barbara Gutt, Kaspar Sÿdlers Eheweib, ibid d(en) 6. d(ito)
Barbara Gut, Kaspar Sidler's wife, same place (as previous entry = Ottenbach) the 6th of the same month (= May 1728).

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