Johann Jacob Ritter married Susanna Magdalena Catharina Roller 25 Feb 1755 in Berghausen, Durlach. Susanna Magdalena Catharina Roller's marriage record says she is the daughter of Mr. Johann Friedrich Roller, pastor at Stein. Susanna's mother is Eva Christina Lindemännin who married 26 May 1722 in Rußheim, Karlsruhe, Baden. Christina Lindemannin's father is Johann Philipp Lindemänn according to her marriage record. I believe the family is from Spöck.
The word Rußheim is translated as Russheim.
1737 While in Liedolsheim Roller, brought the old complaint that the congregation did not want to give the teacher the newly built schoolhouse. https://de.wikisource.org/wiki/Ortsgeschichtliche_Mitteilungen_aus_der_Umgebung_von_Karlsruhe_aus_der_ersten_H%C3%A4lfte_des_18._Jahrhunderts
Eva Christina Lindemann is the daughter of Mr. Johann Philipp Lindemann, faithful pastor in Spöck
Salititos Lindermann b 19 Sep 1692 Spock
Maria Magdalena Lindenmann b 1695
Johann Philipp Lindemann, pastor in Spöck, with wife Sara Susanna born 23 Apr 1697 in Spöck, married Sara Susanna Machunettus or Madunattin in Spöck 11 August 1722
Johannes Lindenmann b 11 Mar 1700 Karlsruhe
Philippina Jacobäa Lindemann b 27 July 1701
Gottlieb Friderich Lindeman b 6 Nov 1706 in Spöck,
Johann Philipp Lindemann, pastor in Bettberg, with wife Carolina Magdalena, birth 27 Mar 1703 Spöck
Let's keep our pastors in order:
1722 Johann Friedrich Roller was a temporary pastor in Liedolsheim. This town is a mile west of Graben. It sits between Graben and the Rhine River. Ulrich to Kent: I understand this church book is from Russheim, where Johan Friedrich Roller started his service as a (temporary) pastor in January 1722. Nearly five months later he marries in his own church, but because he cannot officiate the marriage himself, pastor Obermüller from nearby Liedolsheim leads the service.
1722 Johann Friedrich Roller's wife to be, Eva Christina Lindemann is the daughter of Mr. Johann Philipp Lindemann, faithful pastor in Spöck
1725 When Johann Friederich's daughter Christina Johanna Roller is born 27 Dec 1725, her baptismal record says her father Johann Friedrich Roller is the pastor in Rußheim, where she is born.
1735 Johann Friedrich Roller's son Gottlieb Friedrich Roller is later a pastor. He is born in 1735 in Knielingen where his father, Johann Friedrich Roller is the pastor
1753 - 1756 J. J. Ritter served as pastor in Teutschneureut (Teutsch-Neureuth). While there marries Johann Friedrich Roller's daughter: Susanna Magdalena Catharina Roller.
1755 Susanna Magdalena Catharina Roller's marriage record says she is the daughter of Mr. Johann Friedrich Roller, pastor at Stein.
1761 Gottlieb Friedrich Roller serves as Pfarrer from 1761 - 1767 in Teutschneureut, where his brother in law J. J. Ritter was pastor.
Teutschneureut is an area in west Karlsruhe. It is not found in Meyers.
1875January 1, the municipalities of Liedolsheim and Rußheim were merged in the course of municipal reform to become the community of Liedolsheim-Rußheim. For simplicity the new municipality was renamed Dettenheim on 1 January 1978 because the lengthy name Liedolsheim-Rußheim had been found to be disadvantageous and the historical name Dettenheim was preferred versus possible artificial names. So in summary Susanna Magdalena Catharina's father, brother and husband are pastors and her maternal grandfather was a pastor in Spöck.
Susanna Roller's family:
Father: Johann Friedrich Roller G8YK-KQT Was Johann
Mother: Eva Christina Lindemännin 9JBN-WMD married 26 May 1722 Rußheim, Karlsruhe, Baden,. Her father is Johann Philipp
1. Christina Friederica Roller b abt 26 Feb 1723 death 22 Mar 1778 in Rußheim, Karlsruhe, Baden death 22 Mar 1778 in Stein,
Baden, she died at 55 years old
2. Philipp Friedrich Roller b 7 July 1724, Rußheim
3. Christina Johanna Roller b 27 Dec 1725, father noted as a pastor
she is born in Rußheim
4. Johann Friederich Roller b 1731, died at 16, 5 Mar 1747, in Stein Bretten
5. Susanna Magdalena MY6W-GZS b 13 Oct 1732 in Knielingen,
Karlsruhe, Baden christened 15
6. Gottlieb Friedrich Roller b 1735 in Knielingen
7. Catharina Philippia Roller b 25 Feb 1738 in Spöck, Baden
8. Juliana Barbara Roller 9JBN-MP5 b 11 Dec 1739 in Spöck
9. Johanna Friederick Roller M196-YPQ m 3 Oct 1753 to Christian Weghaupt
9. Maria Wilhelmina Roller bap 22 Mar 1743 Spöck, Karlsruhe
What happened to Johann and Susanna's three children?
Carl Wilhalm Ritter christened 20 June 1759 in Graben, born June 16
Johann Frederick Ritter and baptized the 29th in Teutschneureut, Baden.
Fredericka Wilhelmina Ritter born 28 Feb 1763 and married Johann Jacob Eisenlohr in Graben in 1780
Documents related to Johann Friedrich Roller:
On January 1, 1975, the municipalities of Liedolsheim and Rußheim were
merged in the course of municipal reform to become the community of Liedolsheim-Rußheim.
For simplicity the new municipality was renamed Dettenheim on 1 January
1978 because the lengthy name Liedolsheim-Rußheim had been found to be
disadvantageous.
Hello Kent this is obviously a list of pastors (for which parish?); it is in Latin. Answer: Germany, Baden, Rußheim - Church records
1722 Johan Friederich Roller, Bada-Durlacensis officium incepit Dom. post Circumcis. d 4. Januarii
Translation:
1722 Johan Friederich Roller from Baden-Durlach started his ministry Sunday after the Feast of the Circumcision of Christ [i.e. 1 January] on January 4th.
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| Johann Frederick Roller marriage 26 May 1722 film 102102761 page 1991 |
Ulrich Neitzel:Transcription:d.26. Maÿ ___? am Pfingstdienstag ist p.t. Pastor dahier T. Johann Friedrich Roller mit T. Jungfer Eva Christina Lindemännin H. Johann Philipp Lindemanns, treueÿfriger Pfarrer zu Spöck ehelr Tochter copuliert worden von H. Obermüller, Pfarrer in Liedolsheim. Textus nuptial. erat auß dem Buch Ruth Cap. 1,16, sq.
Translation:
on 26 May Pentecost Tuesday has been married by Mr. Obermüller, pastor in Liedolsheim, the temporary pastor here Johann Friedrich Roller with Miss Eva Christina Lindemann, legitimate daughter of Mr. Johann Philipp Lindemann, faithful pastor in Spöck. The wedding text was from the book Ruth, chap. 1,16 and following.
Note that on this page above the year 1722 there is an introductory text (in Latin) for pastor Roller:
De Anno 1722, in quo scil. mense Januar. die 4. Dom. p. Circumcis. heic loci presentatis fuit Johannes Fridericus Rollerus, tempore officii sequentes ex more Christiano.laudabili sunt proclamatae atque copulatæ personæ
In the year 1722, in which in the month of January on the 4th, Sunday after the Feast of Circumcision Johann Friderich Roller was presented her eat the time of his service, the following people were proclamated and married in the laudable Christian manner.
Note: Ruth 1:16
And Ruth said: “Entreat me not to leave thee, or to return from following after thee; for whither thou goest, I will go, and where thou lodgest, I will lodge. Thy people shall be my people, and thy God my God.
From this we learn:
In 1922 Johann Friedrich Roller was a temporary pastor in
Liedolsheim, Johann Friedrich Roller's wife to be, Eva Christina Lindemann is the daughter of Mr. Johann Philipp Lindemann, faithful pastor in Spöck In summary Susanna Magdalena Catharina's father, brother and husband are pastors, as well as her maternal grandfather.
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| Christina Friedericka Roller birth in Russheim karlsruhe 1723 film 102102761 page 982 |
Date: on the 26th of February [1723] born in the morning between 8:00 am and 9:00 am, and on the 28th [of February], Oculi Sunday, was baptized by Mr. Pastor Obermüller.
Child: Christina Friderica.
Parents: Johann Friederich Roller, pastor, Eva Christina.
Baptismal sponsors: Mr. Gottfriedt Posselt, deacon in Durlach, and his legitimate wife Maria Magdalena. Johann Georg Rüger, middle-class inhhabitant and white bread baker in Spöck. Zacharias Fefzner, citizen and juryman in the place cited.
My comment: Oculi Sunday is the third Sunday in Lent and is a movable feast day.
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| Philipp Friedrich Roller birth 7 July 1724 Russheim film 102102761 page 983 |
Time: born on the 7th of July [1724] in the evening between 3:00 pm and 4:00 pm and baptized on the 10th? of the same month.
Child: Philipp Friederich.
Parents: Johann Fr[iederich] Roller, pastor, Eva Christina.
Baptismal sponsors: Mr. Gottfried Posselt, assistant deacon in Durland, and the same's wife Mrs. Maria Magdalena. Mr. Johann Philipp Lindemann, for the time being a candidate for the ministry. Catharina Rügerin, wife of Mr. Georg Rüger, innkeeper at the sign of the crown in Spöck. Barbara Feznerin, wife of Zacharias Fezner, middle-class inhabitant and member of the council.
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| Christina Johanna Roller born 1725 in Rußheim film 102078096 page 504 |
Ullrich Neitzel:
Transcription:
Zeit: am Hl. Christtag früh um 7 Uhr __? der 25. Xbris und 27. getauft
Kinder: Christiana Johanna; X. in pag. sqti inter anno 1725 natos, zuletzt zu setzen
Eltern: Joh. Friederich Roller p.t. Pastor, Eva Christina, geb. Lindemännin
Gevattern: Johann Georg Krüger, Cronenwirth zu Spöck u. dessen Ehefrau Catharina
Translation:
Time: on Holy Christmas early at 7 o'clock __? 25 December and 27th baptized
Children: Christina Johanna; [remark below name:] X. on following pages in 1725 born, place last ?
Parents: Johann Friederich Roller, temporary pastor, Eva Christina née Lindemann
Baptismal sponsors: Johann Georg Krüger, innkeeper at the sign of the crown in Spöck and his wife Catharina
Comment by Ulrich: It seems that the year of birth is 1725, but there are some peculiarities: the birth date given is 25. December, but the immediately preceding entries are for January to April only. There is a remark under the name which I cannot interpret fully; It seems to say something about the following pages/entries. Maybe a good idea to check how the list continues on the next page.
Thank you, Kent. It is indeed so that all entries for 1725 are in chronological order - except for the one of Christiana Johanna, which should have been the last. The reason is not clear to me.
By the way, the actual last entry for 1725 is for a "Findelkind", a foundling, found on 2 December "in Johann Friedrich Schmidt's Scheune (barn)".
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| Friederica Wilhelmina Ritter marriage 1780 in Graben film 102078298 page 818 |
Ulrich Neitzel:
Transcription:
d. 11.ten April
H. Carl Friderich Eisenlohr, Pfarrer zu Hochstetten, H. Johann Jacob Eisenlohrs, Pfarrers zu Lauf_en? mit weÿl: Sara Elisabetha, gebohrene Sartoriusin ehelich erzeügter lediger H. Sohn.
und Jgfr. Friderica Wilhelmina, née Ritterin, Johann Jacob Ritters, des allhiesigen Pfarrers mit Susanna Magdalena Catharina gebohrenen Rollerin ehelich erzeugte ledige Tochter
Translation:
11 April [1780]
Mr. Carl Friedrich Eisenlohr, pastor in Hochstetten, legitimately conceived unmarried son of Mr. Johan Jacob Eisenlohr, pastor in Laufen? with the deceased Sara Elisabetha née Sartorius
and Miss Friderica Wilhelmina née Ritter, legitimately conceived unmarried daughter of Johan Jacob Ritter, pastor here, with Susanna Magdalena Catharina née Roller
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| Susanna Magdalena Catharina Roller birth 1732 Knielingen, Karlsruhe, Baden 13 Oct film 102078253 page 239 |
Unfortunately I can't fully read the remark under the name. The underlined word seems to be Eingeschikt = sent in. Maybe another community member can help.
Translation of the entry:
Born on the 13 October [1732] between 12 and 1 p.m. and baptized 15 [October]
Susanna Magdalena Catharina
Parents: Johann Friederich Roller, pastor; Eva Christina
Baptismal sponsors: Mr. Johann Philipp Lindemann, pastor in Spöck, with wife Sara Susanna (marriage 11 Aug 1722 in Spöck, b 23 April 1697, same parents as below, Sara's last name is Machunettus) Mr. Johann Philipp Lindemann, pastor in Bettberg, with wife Carolina Magdalena (marriage 21 Mar 1730 in Karlsruhe, birth 27 Mar 1703, parents: Father with same name , mother Annä Evä in Spöck. 9VL9-FVX Carolina Magdalena Machunettus, Annä )
Johann Georg Krüger, innkeeper at the sign of the crown and baker in Spöck, and his wife Catharina Barbara
My Comments: It is striking that two of the sponsors have the same name and the same occupation (pastor). I suspect that these are father and son. You state that the mother Eva Christina, Johann Friederich Roller's wife, also is born Lindemann. So probably we have here another case where husband, father and brother are pastors.
Note that for the pastors the title is H[err] and their spouses are called in Latin uxor, whereas for the third sponsor there is no Herr and his spouse is the usual Ehefrau = wife.
The occupation of Johann Georg Krüger is in German Weißbeker, literally white baker, meaning that he produced bread and cake from white flour (wheat).
Bettberg is about 100 km further south.
one addition:
I think some of the letters after Eingeschikt could be a date:
ʘ.II.p. Epi_? = sunday II. post Epi__? = 2nd sunday after Epiphany?
A circle with a dot in the middle is a symbol for sunday, see https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Week_Day_Symbols
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| Maria Wilhelmine Roller death 21 Sep 1744 born in Spöck 1743 age 1 film 102121308 page 567 |
Mr. G, per your request, here is your translation:
Year: [1744].
Day and month: 21 September.
Died and buried: Maria Wilhelmina, age 1 year, 6 months, and 4 hours. Parent(s): Johann Friederich Roller, pastor, and Eva Christina, née Lindemännin.
Surname: Rollerin.
My comment: The record doesn't make clear whether the child died or was buried on 21 September 1744.
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| Jacob Ritter/Susanna Magdalena marriage Durlach, 25 Feb 1755 film 102078286 page 691 |
Ulrich Neitzel:
Transcription
d. 25. Febr. wurde durch T. Herrn Special und Kirchenrath Bürcklin von Carlsruhe dahier copuliert. Herr Johann Jacob Ritter, Pfarrer zu Neureuth, H. Joh. Jacob Ritters deß Bürgers und Becker zu Durlach ehel. led. Sohn mit Susanna Magdalena Catharina Rollerin, Herrn Joh. Friederich Rollers, Pfarrers zu Stein ehel. ledig Jgfr Tochter.
Translation:
On 25 February [1755] were married here by T. Mr. Special and church councilor Bürcklin from Carlsruhe:
Mr. Johann Jacob Ritter, pastor at Neureuth (read: Teutschneureut), son of Mr. Johann Jacob Ritter citizen and baker at Durlach, with Susanna Magdalena Catharina Roller, legitimate single Miss daughter of Mr. Johann Friedrich Roller, pastor at Stein. (Stein had 1 protestant church)
Comments:Councilor Bürcklin also introduced J. J. Ritter to the Graben congregation on March 6, 1758. There is an interesting website listing all pastors of Teutschneureut here. Note that also the son of Johann Friedrich Roller, Gottlieb Friedrich Roller, is listed as pastor in this parish 1761-1765.
Thank you Ulrich! We now have some amazing, new information from this document:
1. J. J. Ritter's father, Mr. Johann Jacob Ritter was a citizen and baker in Durlach. This does not fit with the birth record above. There is a Johann Jacob Ritter who married Maria Elisabetha in Durlach in 1694.
2. Susanna Magdalena's father was a pastor in Stein. Susanna's father was a pastor, she married a pastor and her brother was a pastor. Her marriage was in Durlach.
3. Gottlieb Friedrich Roller (Susanna's brother) (1761 - 1767) * 1735 in Knielingen † 1794 in Sulzburg (Sohn des Knielinger Pfarrer Johann Friedrich Roller, Studium (studied) in Tübingen, Magister 1756, danach Pfarrer in Königsbach, 1761 - 1767 in Teutschneureut, 1767 in Obereggenen, 1782 bis zu seinem Tod (died) 1794 in Sulzburg)
Susanna's brother: Gottlieb Friedrich Roller (1761 - 1767) * 1735 in Knielingen † 1794 in Sulzburg (Sohn des Knielinger Pfarrer Johann Friedrich Roller, Studium (studied) in Tübingen, Magister 1756, danach Pfarrer in Königsbach, 1761 - 1767 in Teutschneureut, 1767 in Obereggenen, 1782 bis zu seinem Tod 1794 in Sulzburg) Knielinger is located west of Karlshrue.
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| Carl Wilhelm Ritter birth 16 June 1759 Graben film 102078348 page 410 copy |
Ulrich Neitzel:
Transcription:
d. 16ten Junÿ nachmittags nach 12 Uhr nat. et 20ten ren. est
Carl Wilhelm Ritter.
Paentes: Johan Jacob Ritter, dermahliger Pfarrer dahir und meine liebe Ehefrau Susanna Magdalena Catharina geb. Rollerin
Patrini: S.T. Ihro Hochwohlehrwürden Herr Christian Weghaubt, treueiferiger Pfarrer zu Oberwöslingen. Dessen Frau Eheliebste, Frau Friderica geb. Rollerin. S.T. Ihro Hochedelgebohren Herr Philipp Friderich Roller, Hochfürstl. Marggräfl. Baaden Durlachl. Registrator. Jgfr. Christina Rollerin. Frau Johanna Sibilla Baierin, H. Joh. Friderich Baieri Bürgers und SchreinerMeister zu Durlach Ehefrau, geb. Ritterin.
Translation:
born on 16 June [1759] in the afternoon and baptized on the 20th
Carl Wilhelm Ritter
Parents: Johan Jacob Ritter, presently pastor here, and my dear wife Susanna Magdalena Catharina née Roller
Baptismal sponsors: S.T. His Most Reverend Mr. Christian Weghaubt, faithful pastor in Oberwöslingen. His dearest wife Mrs. Friderica née Roller. S.T. His High Noble-Born Mr. Philipp Friderich Roller, princely margravely Baden-Durlachian registrator. Miss Christina Roller. Mrs Johanna Sibilla Baier née Ritter, wife of Mr. Johann Friderich Baier, citizen and master cabinetmaker in Durlach.
Note: S.T. is the abbreviation of Sine Titulo (Latin), literally "without title". Originally it means that not all titles of the person are listed. Over time it became a honorary title itself; somebody for whom not all titles are listed must be a very important person.
What do we learn from this document?
1. J. J. Ritter had good friends in the clergy.
2. Christian Weghaubt was a pastor in Oberwöslingen. He married Johanna Friderica née Roller. They married 8 Oct 1753
in Berghausen, Durlach (this is Susanna's sister)
3. Philipp Friderich Roller, is a princely margravely Baden-Durlachian registrator. A registrar or registrant is a person who registers data. (Susanna's brother, b 7 July 1724, Rußheim)
4. Christina Roller 36 year old sister, b abt 1723 death 22 Mar 1778 in Stein, Baden, she died at 55 years old)
5. Johann Friderich Baier, citizen and master cabinetmaker in Durlach married Sibilla Ritter. (This is J. J. Ritter's sibling sister)
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| Fredericka Wilhelmina Ritter birth 8 Feb 1763 Graben film 102078348 page 341 |
Translation by Marion Wolfert
Born on the 25 Feb 1763 in the morning and christened on the 28 Feb 1763 was Friederica Wilhelmina RITTER(in), daughter of Johann Jacob RITTER, the local minister (Pfärrer) and his wife, Susanna Magdalena Catharina KOLLER(in)
Witnesses are: the honorable Mister Philip Friderich KOLLER, honorable Baden Durlach Regestrator
Misses Friderica KLEYHAUBB(in) wife of the honorable Mister Christian KLEYHAUBTS the loyal mnister of Spöck,
Misses Elisabeth nee KOLLER(in),
the maiden Juliana Barbara KOLLER(in),
Mister Georg Friderich HAURE? citizen and master carpenter at Durlach, Misses Maria Elisabetha SUTTER nee KOLLER(in) wife of Georg Friderich SUTTER, citizen and white baker at Durlach
Misses Margaretha RAICHER(in) nee WAIDMANN(in), wife of Mister Joh. Friederich RAICHER a local citizen and jury member
Fredericka married Carl Friederich Eisenlase on 11 April 1780 in Graben
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| Johann Frederick Ritter birth 27 Sep 1756 Teutschneureut, Baden, film 008090906 page 136 |
Urich Neitzel:
Transcription:
d. 27ten Sept: früh um 1/2 2 Uhr nat. et 29.ten ren. est
Johann Friderich Ritter. Parentes: Johann Jacob Ritter, dermahliger Pfarrer dahier, und mein liebes Eheweib, Susanna Magdalena Catharina eine geb. Rollerin.
Patrini: H. Philipp Friderich Roller, Scribent bej H. Landschreiber Obermüller zu Carlsruhe. Frau Johanna Friderica Weghaubtin, Ihre hochwohlehrwürden H. Christian Weghaubt, frei__iferigen? Seelsorgers zu Oberwösingen, Frau Eheliebtin, geb. Rollerin, H. Georg Friderich Ritter, ledig. Jgfr. Johanna Christiana Rollerin.
Translation:
27 September [1756], born early at 1:30 [a.m.] and baptized 29thJohan Friderich Ritter.
Parents: Johan Jacob Ritter, presently pastor here, and my dear wife Susanna Magdalena Catharina née Roller.
Baptismal sponsors: Mr. Philipp Friderich Roller, scribe with county clerk Obermüller in Carlsruhe. Mrs Johanna Friderica Weghaubt née Roller, wife of His Reverend Mr. Christian Weghaubt, ___? spiritual caregiver in Oberwösingen. Mr. Georg Friderich Ritter, single. Miss Johanna Christiana Roller.
Note: Oberwösingen is probably (part of) the village named Wössingen in Meyers Gazetteer.