GatheringGardiners: Hans Andreas Endris Scholl 1639-1691

Graben, 1650

Hans Andreas Endris was a Bürger (citizen) who lived in Graben, Germany during a difficult time in history. Hans Andreas was buried 17 Dec 1691. His death record says he was 52 at the time of death which means he was born in 1639. In 1695 Hans Endris is referred to as a "middle-class inhabitant here". This means he was a middle class resident of the city/town, or higher up on the social and economic scale than most people in the town. (Robert Seal on middle class)

Other than his death record and Margaretha's death record what we know about Hans Andreas Endris Scholl comes from his children's birth records and some bapisimal sponsorships as seen below. Hans was married to Anna Margretha Hosin born 1644 - death 1693 and they had ten children. Here is the best birth record we have of any their children:

Translation by Ulrich Neitzel:

On 16 February [1681] in the early morning Anna Margretha, wife of Hans Endris Scholl, citizen here, gave birth to a little son, who was thereupon baptized on the 18 February and named Hans Mattheus. Baptismal sponsors were: (1) Hans Andreas Zimmermann, citizen here, and his wife Anna Margretha. (2) Mattheus Rößler, citizen and innkeeper at the sign of the white little horse and his wife Elisabeth. Note: This is an absolute proof that the parents of Hans Mattheus b 1681were Anna Margretha and Hans Endris Scholl. The following children were born to Andreas Endris and Anna Margretha. Only two lived to adulthood out of ten children.

What happened to their children?

Anna Barbara Scholl 1666 2 mo

Anna Jacobea Scholl 1667 Dec infant

Hans Martin Scholl 1669 Dec 2wks

Johann Adam Scholl 1670-1670

Anna Margaretha Scholl 1672-?

J ohann Christoph Scholl 1675-?

Georg Scholl 1678-1728, married Elisabetha Weidmann, had 5 children (This is the first George Scholl we know of)

Hans Matthaeus Scholl 1681- 1741, tailor, married Anna Eva Rossin was born in 1690 making her 9 years younger than Matthaeus. They both died in the same year. FamilySearch says they had 16 children. Not unheard of but nevertheless a large family.

Anna Catharina Scholl 1683 Dec 2 wks

Hans Peter Scholl 1687 Dec infant

Where did Andreas get his children's names?

Anna Barbara Scholl from her paternal grandmother

Anna Jacobea Scholl unknown

Hans Martin Scholl from his uncle Hans Matthias's daughter

Johann Adam Scholl for sponsor Adam König

Anna Margaretha Scholl from her mother

J ohann Christoph Scholl for sponsor Christoph Schumacher

Georg Scholl for sponsor Hanß Jörg Eÿtel inkeeper at the Swan

Hans Matthaeus Scholl from his uncle Hans Matthias

Anna Catharina Scholl from uncle Hans Matthias' daughter

Hans Peter Scholl from his paternal uncle

Who were the baptismal sponsors of Hans Andreas's children?
1666 Anna Barbara Scholl Baptismal sponsors: Martin Keller together with wife. Hanß Conrad Heil together with wife.( nebst Fr[au] = together with wife.)

1667Anna Jacobea Scholl Baptismal sponsors: Martin Keller together with wife. Hanß Conrad Heil together with wife.

1669 Hans Martin Scholl Baptismal sponsors: Martin Keller together with wife. Hanß Conrad Heil together with wife. Anna Margret Rauschin, A(n)dam? Rauschin's daughter.

1670 Johann Adam Scholl Baptismal sponsors: Adam König together with wife. Anna Margreta, Adam Rausch's daughter. Antoni Weick, Hanß Weick's son.

1672 Anna Margaretha Scholl Baptismal sponsors: Christoph Schumacher, and his wife Margaretha and Antoni Weik and wife Margaretha

J ohann Christoph Scholl Baptismal sponsors: Christoph Schumacher, occupation inkeeper of Gronen (crown)and his wife, Anthoni Weick and his wife and Hans Adam Kemm and his wife

1678 Georg Scholl Baptismal sponsors were: (1) Hanß Jörg Eÿtel, citizen and innkeeper at the sign of the swan here, and Anna Catharina, his wife. (2) Hanß Andres Zimmermann, citizen here, his wife Anna Margretha.

1681 Hans Matthaeus Scholl Baptismal sponsors are (1) Hanß Andreas Zimmermann, citizen here, [and] Anna Margreth, his wife. (2) Mattheus Rößler, citizen and innkeeper at the sign of the white (little) horse, [and] Elisabeth, his wife.

1683 Anna Catharina Scholl Baptismal sponsors: Peter Keller local baker and his wife Anna Margaretha and Hans Georg Eytel, local inkeeper of Gasthaus "Zum Schwanen" house " translated the Swan guest and his wife

1687 Hans Peter Scholl Baptismal sponsors: Peter Keller local baker and Anna Margareth and Hans Jörg Eytel the inkeeper of the Swan and his wife. (About 1675 he married Margretha König.)

Who is Hans Adam Kemm?

Hans Adam Kemm b 1641was married to Susanna Barbara Heyl b 1636 d 27 Nov 1691. They had a daughter named Anna Margretha Kemm who was christened 23 July 1673. Adam was born in 1641 and died 1704. He was 63 at the time. Susanna give birth to 9 children. There is a Scholl baptismal sponsor for Anna Eva Kemm bap 22 Nov 1674. Susanna died in 1691 and Adam remarried to Anna Jacobea Scholl born 1667. Jacobea was the second child of Hans Andreas Endris Scholl b 1639. So Adam Kemm is friends with Hans Andreas Endris Scholl and acts as sponsor when Endris' son Johan Christoph Scholl is born 1675 and twenty years later on the 8th of January 1695 Adam marries Andreas Endris' second child Anna Jacobea Scholl. The couple has 5 children. The marriage record between Jacobea and Adam notes Adam was a member of the council. This may refer to the "parish council" which means he helped with the duties of the church and assisted the pastor.

What is a council member?

In Gabriel Geibel bap 7 Jan 1701 it mentions a sponsor: Mister Christoph ZACHMANN, council member and innkeeper of the Ochs Inn. Adam and Christoph Zachmann probably served together since Adam Kemm didn't die until 1704.
On the 26th of [ _____ 1705] Martin Scholl, council member and widower here, with Anna Sabina Wentzin, legitimate daughter of Jost Wentzen, council member here, [were married].
When H. Conrad Heil age 47 died 8 Oct 1673 the entry says: 8 October [1673]: H. Conrad Heil, citizen and council member, in the 47th year of his age.

Note: "of the council" = member of the city/village/town council.

The Kemm family is known for their community minded skills:

1875 Hauptlehrer Kemm, Karl teacher

1732 Christoph Kemm Sheriff

1752 Johann Philipp Kemm (Sohn) Sheriff

1822 Christoph Kemm Sheriff

1830 Christoph Kemm Bürgermeister

Who is Mattheus Rößler?

Mattheus Rößler 1635-1716had a wife named Elisabeth Stober 1641 - 1708. FS has his father as Hanß Martin Rößler and his mother as Anna Marien In 1681 Mattheus was the baptismal sponsor for a child born to Hans Andreas Endris Scholl 1639-1691. Being a baptismal sponsor meant that if something happened to Andreas and his wife Mattheus and his wife would raise the child. Mattheus lived to be 80 years old. His wife Elisabetha Stober age 67 at death b 1641 died 4 Dec 1708. Mattheus FH ID: GDZ4-F4Q

Who is Adam König?

Adam König was born about 1624. He married about 1649 to Margaretha ______. Their first child was Anna Elisesabetha who was born 2 Dec 1655. Then came Anna Margretha König b 29 Oct 1658. She married Mayor Peter Keller. (see below)

Who is Adam Rausch's daughter?

Adam Rausch was born about 1610 in Graben. He married Madle. or Magdalen Schmidt and they had a daughter named Margreta. Anna Margreta was born 10 Oct 1647 and is one of the earliest records we have in Graben. She married Lorenz Heylmeyer about 1663 and they had 5 children.

Who is Johann Conrad Heil?

Conrad Heil was born about 1626 using his death date minus the number of years lived. He married Anna Jacobea Cammerer about 1660. They had four children. Conrad died 8 Oct 1673 in Graben. He was 47 years old. On the 9th of September 1689, in the morning between 7:00 am and 8:00 am, the blessed Anna Jacobea, surviving widow of Hanß Conrad Heÿl, citizen here, died in her Savior Jesus Christ, in the damp, and to be precise in the forest, who on the 10th of September thereafter according to Christian custom was buried.

Note: Hans Adam Heil was born 22 Sep 1658. Adam's parents are Hans Conrad Heil and his wife Jacobe Cammerer. In 1658 Barbara Scholl and her son Hans Matthias Scholl are mentioned as baptismal sponsors to Hans Adam Heil born 22 Sep 1658. Adam's parents are Hans Conrad Heil and his wife Jacobe Cammerer.

Who is Martin Keller?

Martin Keller was a Scholl sponsor from 1666 to 1669 in Graben. Ancestry and FS have been searched without without results.

Who is Mayor Peter Keller:

Hans Peter Keller was born in Graben in 1625 and died 11 July 1661. He died at 36 and was widowed. His son, named after him, Peter Keller born 1657 in Graben. He was a local baker in Graben who had a wife named Anna Margareth König. The König family is well known in Graben. In 1700 Peter's brother Christoph Keller was the mayor and from 1706 to 1728 Peter Keller (Bruder d.Ch. which means brother) was the mayor of Graben. In 1710 Peter's daughter was a baptismal sponsor at 14 for the birth of Christoph Schumacher where she is identified as the mayor's daughter. Peter Keller and Anna Margareth König were sponsors for two of Hans Andreas Endris Scholl's children.

Who is Hans Georg Eytel?

Hans Georg Eytel was the local inkeeper of Gasthaus "Zum Schwanen" house " translated the Swan guest and his wife? 1683-87]

(See document at the end of this post for the death of his wife Anna Catharina. Child Anna Margreth Eytele b 22 Mar 1678, Anna Margretha Eitel death 14 Oct 1692, age 14

Who is Christoph Schumacher?

Christoph Schumacher was born 1642 in Graben and lived until 1691. He married Margaretha Straub about 1670 and they had three children. Christoph's occupation was inkeeper of Gronen (crown) (the spellng may be Schumacher) Occupation at death: Gerichtsverwandter (see the end of this page for his death record) Christoph also had a son named Christoph 1675-1750 who married Anna Maria Barbara Horchheimer 1681-1738. They had six children. Christoph, a butcher, and his wife were the baptismal sponsors of Hans Andreas Endris Scholl's son George Scholl b 1678 children. That means two generations of Schumachers were godparents or baptismal sponsors to two generations of the same Scholl family.

Who is Hans Andreas Zimmerman?

Andreas Zimmerman was born Feb 1638 in Graben. His parents are Hans Andreas Zimmermann (1580-1662) and Anna Margaretha Klemmers (Eiselin) 1589-1673. Andreas married Margaretha Zimmermann (1640-1681) about 1660 in Graben. They had three children. Hans died 14 Dec 1691 in Graben. Interestingly enough Andreas died 3 days before Hans Andreas Endris Scholl and their entries are next to each other in the Graben record! On the 14th of December [1691], Hanß Andreas Zimmermann, citizen here, blissfully fell asleep [passed away], who the next day according to Christian custom was honestly buried to the earth; he lived 53 years and 10 months.

Who is Anton Weick?

Anton or Antoni Weick was born 24 Aug 1647 to Hans Jacob Weick (1610-1671) and Barbara Pfeil (1612 - ). He was their second child. Antoni married Margaretha sometime before 1669 and they had four children. Antoni Weick died 5 Sep 1733 in Bruchsal, St. Damian and Hugo, Krlsrh., Badn and was buried the next day - 6 Sep 1733

Notes of William T Wyatt Jr.:
ANDREAS DEATH: Graben Parish Register; 1645-1800; item 2; death entry; FHL film 1238310; notes -- died at age 52 years, allowing calculation of birth year.

MOTHER'S DEATH: Graben Parish Register; 1645-1800; item 2; 27 Jan 1665 christening, mother's 12 Jan 1684 death record; FHL film 1238310; notes -- witnesses at cited christening were Barbara Scholl and her son Hans Andreas Scholl, her death record 1684 gives her maiden name and deceased husband's name.

MARRIAGE TO ANNA MARGARETHA HOD: Graben Parish Register; 1645-1800; item 2; christening; FHL film 1238310; notes -- christening 23 Nov 1683 of daughter Anna Catharina gives parents Hans Andris Scholl and Anna Margretha Hod (maiden name), no other marriage record.

MARRIAGE: Graben Parish Register; 1645-1800; item 2; christening; FHL film 1238310; notes -- marriage occurred between 27 Jan 1665 when Hans Andreas Scholl and his widowed mother Barbara Scholl witnessed a christening and 24 April 1666 when Hans Andreas Scholl and wife Anna Margret had their first child christened (very probably married between January and July 1665).

MARRIAGE: Graben Parish Register; 1645-1800; item 2; christening; FHL film 1238310; notes -- christening 23 Nov 1683 of daughter Anna Catharina gives parents Hans Andris Scholl and Anna Margretha Hod (maiden name), no other marriage record.

DEATH OF ANNA MARGARETHA: Graben Parish Register; 1645-1800; item 2; death record; FHL film 1238310; notes -- gives age 49 years, allowing calculation of birth year, also says surviving widow of Hans Andreas Scholl.

Bürger

In Germany there are nobility, Bürgers, and common folk. Bürgers are legally recognized inhabitants of a city or a state. In other words they are members of the middle class. These citizens are usually richer and/or more influential than a peasant/worker but poorer and/or less influential than a nobleman. If you are not Bürger (citizen) of a village (community) then you are second class resident, no right to vote, no right to get elected to an official job, no privileges at all.

To become a citizen (citoyen) you have to invest money (considerable buy-in fee), in other words rich people even foreigners are welcome. They can buy a house, a taverne (restaurant), a mill, a bakery (and even marry the baker's daughter).

During their lives:

In the War of the Grand Alliance (1688-1697), the French destroyed Graben, so that only the church, city hall and some buildings remained. The inhabitants of the village were forced into the forests and in the surrounding area. Peace, order and prosperity did not return until the middle of the 18th century. (Wikipedia)

French Devastation

The tactics of the French were not to occupy land, but to wear it down by means of constant devastation. On 8 October 1675 they invaded Graben again. Hanß Jakob Rausch, a citizen of Graben, reported on this: "At the time of the 111th anniversary of the death of the French, and all the inhabitants of Graben were unaware of why they had come into the village and two of them were in front of the house, one of them had smashed the windows with his pipe and hit a maiden in front of her forehead that she had fallen off the bench. The other one pushed the man and told him to take his wife and children away that he wanted to burn. The soldier who had been bedridden with the light on immediately infected a straw mop, took a straw mop and infected his neighbor with a large saucer filled with straw and hay, which then stood in flames, as did the stain on it. Kircze, city hall, Sczulzeißen house and some have been saved with large military. What the French got their hands on, they took with them, including 16 of the best horses." (Graben by Konrad Dussel)

Castle

This may have been all the harder for Graben, since it was probably with a certain degree of glare that it lasted several years, especially in the late 16th and early 17th century. From 1577 to 1586 and from 1604 to 1617 Graben Castle had served as the widows of two margrave countesses, both with the first name Anna. The former, a native Countess of the Palatinate near Rhein, was very rich in blessings for Graben after her death. As early as 1581 she had deposited 2,000 guldens in Pforzheim, whose interest of 100 guldens was used to pay the annual interest to poor widows and orphans of the Graben. (Graben by Konrad Dussel)

The Castle was destroyed in 1675 by the French. Later it was only a ruin. It is said the red sandstones were used for house of the minister of Lliedolsheim some miles west of Graben. The sandstones were also used to pave the streets of Graben. (Gerd Hartmann)

Sheriff's in Graben during Hans Andreas's lifetime:

1632 Christoph Munk (Munckh)

1668 Hans Andreas Maintzer

1671 Jakob Süß

1691 Johann Mathis Zaisloff (Graben by Konrad Dussel)

Graben Pastors during their lives:

1630-1642 Mathias Miller von Augsburg (Augsburg, Bavaria is one of Germany’s oldest cities. The varied architecture in its center includes medieval guild houses, the 11th-century St. Mary's cathedral and the onion-domed Sankt Ulrich und Afra Abbey.) (Grabstein auf den Friedhof.) (Translation: Mathias's Gravestone in the Cemetery) Mathias Miller was born 1594 in Augsburg and died in Graben in 1632.

1642-1645 Johann Kratzer

1645-1650 Johann Jakob Zaysser von Hornberg (During the Thirty Years' War Hornburg was occupied by the Imperial field marshal Johann Tserclaes von Tilly in 1626, but conquered by Swedish troops in 1630. In 1645 the Swedish military Hans Christoff von Königsmarck finally had the castle destroyed.)

1650-1652 M Jonas Anwander

1652-1654 Augustin Langer von Bamberg (The witch trials of the 17th century claimed about one thousand victims in Bamberg, reaching a climax between 1626 and 1631, under the rule of Prince-Bishop Johann Georg II Fuchs von Dornheim. The famous Drudenhaus (witch prison), built in 1627, is no longer standing today.)

1654-1656 Ludwig Bach von Durlaw (Durlach) (Durlach was chosen by the margrave Charles II in 1565 as residence of the rulers of Baden-Durlach, and retained this distinction though it was almost totally destroyed by the French in 1689.)

1656-1663 Martin Luzius von Augsburg, (second Priest from here) (Augsburg, Bavaria is one of Germany’s oldest cities. The varied architecture in its center includes medieval guild houses, the 11th-century St. Mary's cathedral and the onion-domed Sankt Ulrich und Afra abbey.) (Grabstein auf den Friedhof.) (Translation: Mathias's Gravestone in the Cemetery) served with Augusta Vindel

1663-1671 Sebastian Aepinus Aping

1671-1674 Johann Georg Pantzhaff von Urach in Württemberg (Württemberg was devastated in the Thirty Years’ War (1618–48) and fell prey to French invasions from 1688 until 1693 during the War of the Grand Alliance. Yet the country enjoyed progressive government. Compulsory education was introduced in 1649.) (Born in Urach Württemberg , studied in Strasbourg, 1652 Pastor in Pfulgriesheim, 1656 in Remchingen with the branches Wilferdingen and Singen, 1666 in Eggenstein, 1667 in Langensteinbach, 1671 - 1674 in Graben , the Evangelical Church of Baden called Parzav or Parzhaff)

1674-1677 Johann Oswald Crusius (Crusig) von Ravensburg (Following the Reformation a "paritetic" government emerged in Ravensburg meaning an equal distribution of public offices between the Catholic and Protestant confession. This system was approved at the end of the Thirty Years' War in the Peace of Westphalia (1648).

1677-1682 Immanuel Rösch von Geislingen (The fortified Helfenstein castle existed since 1100.) (In 1644 Hochstetten had its own pastor, named Joh. Friedr. Buß; In 1677 there was Immanuel Rösch.)

1682-1692 Konrad Stadmann von Durlach (Durlach was chosen by the margrave Charles II in 1565 as residence of the rulers of Baden-Durlach, and retained this distinction though it was almost totally destroyed by the French in 1689.)

Documents related to Hans Andreas Endris Scholl:

An engraving by the French engraver van Loon around 1650, about the size of a postcard, shows a Graben in the same style with Bruchsal and Speyer

This map was made by the French in 1659, sixteen years before the Graben Castle was destroyed. It seems that the Castle must have been quite big compared with others in Weingarten or Philippsburg. Other villages around Graben don't have such a symbol. so we know that Graben was a rather important place...the river Pfinz was the border between Graben and Neudorf.

The first map of Graben, where the castle (on the right) is to be seen of the year 1689. As the castle was destroyed in 1675 by the French it was only a ruin in those days and was used as a quarry! So we know that the house of the minister of Liedolsheim (some miles west of Graben) was built with stones of Graben Castle. The sort of stone was red sandstone. The remaining stones of the Castle can be seen today.

Anna Elisabetha König bap 2 Dec 1655 fath Adam m Margretha film 102078348 page 146

Charlotte Noelle Champenois

Column: Adam König's wife [M]argretha's child baptized
Paragraph: On 2 December 1655 is by me, Jacob Roller, pastor of Russe. [probably referring to Russheim, about 5 km NW from Graben], a child baptized. Its name:* Anna Elisabetha. Godparents: Mr. Martin Wehner(?) his son Christoff and his mother, Stephan(?) [i.e., the name in the column next to the year 1656] Rubericht, the dyer [ferber (Färber)] and his wife, also of Mr. Johann Georg Meyer his daughter, administrator [amptsverwalter (Amtsverwalter)] here.
In other words:
I, Jacob Roller, pastor of [Russheim], baptized a child of Adam König and his wife, Margretha, on 2 December 1655. The child's name was Anna Elisabetha.
Her godparents: Martin Wehner's son Christoff and his mother; Stephan(?) Rubericht the dyer and his wife; and local administrator Johann Georg Meyer's daughter.
Note: A similar format is used in the next few entries as well: "D: [date] ist von mir [or: habe ich] H: Jacob Roller pfarrer von Russen ein Kind getaufft [or in this case: das Kind getaufft word(en)]. Sein Namm:"

Barbara Scholl spon 1665 film 004137289 page 213

Translation Robert Seal:
Date: 27 January [1665].
Child: Hanß Jacob.
Parents: Hanß Conrat Heil, Jacobe.
Baptismal sponsors: Adam R____ß together with wife; Barbara Schollin, widow; Hanß Andreß Scholl.
Note: Barbara Scholl, wife of Joss Scholl is still living however Joss died in 1662 so he is not listed. This is proof that Joss Scholl is the father of Hans Andreas Scholl.

Martin Keller 16 Aug 1668 spon film 004137289 page 214 copy

Translation by Robert Seal:
Date: 19 July [1668].
Child: Johan(n) Reinhart.
Parents: Reinhart Hönle, Anna Maria, wife.
Baptismal sponsors: Sebastianus Æpinus, pastor at Graben, together with wife. Ruprecht Kümmicht, citizen at Durlach. Martin Keller together with wife.
Note: Martin Keller keeps popping up in these reccords as a sponsor. I have searched FS and Ancestry and cannot get a single hit. Where is this man and his wife?

Johann Simon Heil bap 30 Oct 1670 film 102078348 page 154

Translation by Robert Seal:

Date: 30 October [1670].
Child: Johan Simon. + [died].
Parents: Hans Conrat Heill, Jacoba, wife.
Baptismal sponsors: Hans Mats Scholl together with wife. Hans Andreas Scholl. Anna Catarina Hos, Caspar Hos's daughter.

Note: Hans Andreas and Hans Matthias Scholl are brothers. Their mother Barbara Dietrich is still alive and will be for the next 14 years, however Joss Scholl is deceased by this time.

Adam Kong death 22 Aug 1671 film 102078348 page 191

Charlotte Noelle Champenois
Translation: On 22 August 1671 was buried Adam König, citizen and innkeeper in this place, in his age 43 years he died of consumption.
That is: Adam König, citizen and innkeeper here, died of consumption at age 43 and was buried on 22 August 1671.
Transcription: 22.Augusti: Adam König, civis u. hospes loci, aetat. sua 43. jahr decessit phtisi [pthisis].

Note: Adam, innkeeper König was a sponsor for Hans Andreas Endris Scholl.

H. Endris Scholl spon 1672 rt film 004137289 page 218

Translation by Robert Seal:
Record number: 26.
Date: 13 September [1672].
Child: Anna Jacobe.
Parents: Antoni Weik, Margretha, wife.
Baptismal sponsors: H[ans] Caspar Beker [and] Jacobe , wife. H[ans] Endris Scholl [and] Margretha, wife.

Anna Eva Kemm bap 22 Nov 1674 Scholl sponsor film 102078348 page 159

Translation by Robert Seal:
On the 20th of November [1674] in the evening between 8:00 pm amd 9:00 pm Anna Eva Kemmin was born to the world, her parents Hans Adam Kemm and his wife Susannah, and was baptized on Sunday midday on the 22nd of November [1674].

Baptismal sponsors were
(1) Hans Endris Zimmermann and his wife;
(2) Hans Endris Scholl and his wife;
(3) Anna Margretha Waidmännin, widow.

Andreas Scholl spon 1675 film 004137289 page 223

Translation by Robert Seal:

On the 24th of July [1675] born to the world in the evening at 11:00 pm was Johann Jacob Waickh, and on the 26th [of July 1675] was baptized, whose parents are Anthonÿ Waickh and his wife Margretha.

Baptismal sponsors are (1) Hans Caspar Beckher and his wife. (2) Hans Andreas Scholl and his wife.

Adam Kemm birth Hans Endris Scholl spon 1675 film 004137289 page 223

Translation by Robert Seal
On the 25th of December [1675], to this world was born Hanß Adam Kemm and on the 27th of the same month in Graben was baptized, whose parents are Hans Adam Kemm and his wife Susanna. Baptismal sponsors were: (1) Hanß Endris Scholl and his wife; (2) Hanß Jerg Cammerer and his wife; (3) Margretha Waidmännin, widow.

Hans Endris Scholl 1681 film 004137289 bott + page 226

Translation by Ulrich Neitzel:

Hans Andreas Endris Scholl Graben death, 17 Dec 1691 film 41127289 page 269

Ulrich Neitzel transcription:
Hannß Andreas Scholl
d. 17. Xbris starb in seinem Erlößer Jesu Christo sanfft und seel. Hannß Andreas Scholl, geweßener Bürger allhier. welcher des anderen Tags, Ehrl: begraben worden, da er dann gelebet 52. Jahr
Translation:
Hans Andreas Scholl
on 17th December [1691] died gently and blessedly in his Redeemer Jesus Christ: Hans Andreas Scholl, former citizen here, who was buried the next day with honors. He had lived 52 years
Notes:17th of obris (November) died and was released in Christ Jesus, Hans Andreas Scholl former (Bürger) citizen from here and was buried, he was 52 years old (Note: When looking at the month keep this in mind: X = roman Latin Decem = ten = December, and 9 bris means roman latin Novem = nine = November)
Pastor: The Graben Pastor who officiated at the funeral of Hans Andreas Endris Scholl was Pfarrer Konrad Stadmann. We have these wonderful Pastors to thank for written documents that help us learn about our ancestors.

Jacobea Scholl m 8 Jan 1695 to Adam Kemm film 102078348 page 185

Translation by Robert Seal:
On the 8th of January [1695], after holding a wedding sermon, were married Hanß Adam "Kamm", citizen and of the council here, with Jacobea, legitimate surviving daughter of the late Hanß Endriß Scholl, middle-class inhabitant here.

Robert Seal Note: "of the council" = member of the city/village/town council. "bürgerlich" = middle-class; bourgeois (see Thode, p. 40). He was a middle class resident of the city/town, higher up on the social and economic scale than probably most people in the town.

Anna Catharina Eytel death 26 April 1691 film 102078348 page 203

Translation by Robert Seal:
On the 26th of April [1691], Anna Catharina died, the wife of Hannß Georg Eytel, innkeeper at the sign of the swan, her age was 52 years, and the following day was buried.
Note: The Eytel family was close to Hans Andreas Endris Scholl because the couple were sponsors of two of Andreas's children.

Hans Andreas and Georg Eytel were definitely best friends!

Anna Margaretha Eytel age 14 death 14 Nov 1692 father Hanns Jorg film 102078298

Translation by Robert Seal:
On the 14th of October [1692], Anna Margretha blissfully fell asleep [died], daughter of Hanß Jörg "Eitel", innkeeper at the sign of the swan, who on the 15th of the same month was buried in a Christian manner, she lived 14 years, 6 months, and 3 weeks.
Note: this is the daughter of Hans Georg Eytel, "Schwanenwürt". I reviewed Anna Margretha Eitels's 1692 death/burial record again to be sure that that there is no indication that her father Hanß Jörg, was deceased. You can assume that he was living at the time of Anna Margretha's death on 14 October 1692.

Christoph Schumacher age 49 death 21 Nov 1691 Graben Gerichtsverwandter film 102078348 page 203

Translation by Robert Seal:
On the 21st of November [1691], in the night Mr. Christoph Schumacher blissfully fell asleep, juryman and host at the Crown [Inn], who on the 23rd of November [1691], according to Christian custom was honestly buried to the earth, he lived approximately 49 years.

Note: Two generations of Schumachers were baptismal sponsors to two generations of Scholls.

Hans Peter Keller bap 23 apr 1657 Graben film 102078348 page 147

Translation Robert Seal:
Date: on the 23rd of April [1657].
Child: Hanß Peter.
Parents: Hanß Peter Keller and his wife Margaretha.
Baptismal sponsors: Hanß Michel Zeißloff and his wife. Michael Hoß and his wife.

Hans Endris Scholl spon 8 Jan 1695 film 102078348 page 185

Translation by Robert Seal:

On the 8th of January [1695], after holding a wedding sermon, were married Hanß Adam Kämm, citizen and of the council here, with Jacobea, the legitimate surviving daughter of the late Hanß Endriß Scholl, middle-class inhabitant here

Anna Christina Keller b 3 Dec 1696 film 004137289 page 240

Translation by Robert Seal:

Date: 3 December [1696] born, 6? December [1696] baptized.
Child: Anna Christina.
Parents: Peter Keller, mayor, wife Anna Margaretha.
Baptismal sponsors: Hanß Adam Kemm with his wife Anna Jacobea.[Scholl] Peter Weÿdmann, the _____?, with his wife Elisabetha.

Christoph Schumacher 2 Aug 1710 bap film 102078348 page 221

Translation by Robert Seal:

On the 1st of August [1710], Johann Christoph was born and on the 2nd [of August 1710] was baptized.
Parents: Johann Christoph Schuemacher, Barbara.
Baptismal sponsors: Georg Scholl with his wife. Matthias Scholl. Anna Christina Kellerin, the mayor's daughter, unmarried status.
Note: Anna Christina Keller was 14 in the doc above.

Hans Andreas Zimmermann death 14 Dec 1691 bur 15 Dec age 53 film 102078348 page 203

Translation by Robert Seal:

On the 14th of December [1691], Hanß Andreas Zimmermann, citizen here, blissfully fell asleep [passed away], who the next day according to Christian custom was honestly buried to the earth; he lived 53 years and 10 months.

Note: Hans Zimmermann was a sponsor to the Endris Scholl family.

Hans Keil age 78 death 20 Feb 1670 film 102078348 page 191

Translation by Robert Seal:
20 February [1670]: Hanß Heil, his age 78 years.
Comment: Hanß Heil's calculated birth year is 1592. Is this your first person born in the 1500s?

Answer: Yes!!! This could be the sponsor mentioned in Andreas's first two children but most likely the next document works better because it has Conrad as his first name.

Note: Hans Heil was a sponsor for the Endris Scholl family

H. Conrad Heil age 47 died 8 Oct 1673 Graben film 102078348 page 192

Translation by Robert Seal:
8 October [1673]: H. Conrad Heil, citizen and council member, in the 47th year of his age.
Note: Johann Conrad Heil was born in 1626 and was the baptismal sponsor for the first two children of Andreas Endris Scholl.

Anna Jacobea Cammerer burial 10 Sep 1689 film 004137289 page 266

I see you've had a lot of lookers but no takers on this request. I can provide you with the vital details of this record but the specific details of the funeral at the end of the 5th line of text and the beginning of the 6th line escape me. Hopefully another FS community volunteer can help us out with these details.
Translation by Robert Seal:
In the left margin: Anna Jacobea Heilin, née Cammererin.
On the 9th of September 1689, in the morning between 7:00 am and 8:00 am, the blessed Anna Jacobea, surviving widow of Hanß Conrad Heÿl, citizen here, died in her Savior Jesus Christ, in the damp, and to be precise in the forest, who on the 10th of September thereafter according to Christian custom with a pulpit speech honestly buried to the earth on the cemetery of Graben. to the grave was honestly buried into the earth. She lived approximately 57 years.
Ulrich Neitzel
I read the missing part as:
...unter Haltung einer Kantzel Abdankung auf dem Gottesacker zu Graben ehrlich zur Erde bestattet worden.
...with a pulpit speech honestly buried to the earth on the cemetery of Graben.
Abdankung is an old term, no longer in use, for a funeral speech (www.woerterbuchnetz.de/DWB?lemid=A00169, enter Abdankung at "Stichwort suchen")
Gottesacker, literally god's acre, an older term for cemetery.

Anna Jacobea Cammerer burial 10 Sep 1689 film 004137289 page 266

The Pastor in Graben from 1682-1690 was Konrad Stadmann von Durlach. Durlach was chosen by the margrave Charles II in 1565 as residence of the rulers of Baden-Durlach, and retained this distinction though it was almost totally destroyed by the French in 1689. Pastor Stadmann served in Graben from March 1682 until 9 Aug 1690 when his handwriting ends. From 1691 up to his death in 1705 he was the deacon in Pforzheim. After this because of gloomy times the service has been provided by the pastors of Spöck vicariando, named Zand and Lindemann, after which own pastors were set again.

Note: On 2 March 1689 Count of Tessé torched Heidelberg; on 8 March Montclar levelled Mannheim. Oppenheim and Worms were finally destroyed on 31 May, followed by Speyer on 1 June, and Bingen on 4 June. In all, French troops burnt over 20 substantial towns as well as numerous villages. (Speyer is 20 miles north of Graben.)

Note: "The Nine Years' War" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine_Years%27_War) between France and a coalition of European forces that led to a devastation of thousands of villages and towns in southwest Germany including the margraviate of Baden.

Wednesday, March 11, 2020

Hans Andreas Endris Scholl 1639-1691