Fridli Sidler married a Lunern Obfelden girl named Barbara Stähli on 12 October 1641. They had 11 children. Their first 5 children grew to adulthood and married. One of the next six married and three died in infancy.
Politically, Obfelden is the youngest municipality in Affoltern, though settlements in the area date back to the Alemannic-Franconian period in the 5th century AD. Early activity coalesced around five hamlets: Bickwil (first mentioned in 1246 as Bickewilare), Oberlunnern and Unterlunnern (1257 Lundenerun and Lunderun inferioris), Wolsen (1311 Wolunsun), and Toussen (1325 Thunsen). These five hamlets were known collectively as being ob dem Feld ("over the field") from neighbouring Ottenbach; most fell under the jurisdiction of Maschwanden, although Toussen and part of Unterlunnern came under the Zürich Freiamt. Both of these areas were merged into Knonau (today's Affoltern district) in the sixteenth century, when the hamlets of Obfelden became a part of the nearby parish of Ottenbach.[(Wikipedia)
During their lives:
1618 - 1649 The balance of power between the Reformed and Catholic estates leads the Confederation to stay out of the Thirty Years' War. (Ottenbach Municipality Website)
1600 - 1800 Switzerland is a loose confederacy of 13 cities and small valley communities dominating the rest of the country. A few families control state
The Thirty Years' War was a war fought in Central Europe between 1618 and 1648. One of the most destructive conflicts in human history, it resulted in eight million fatalities not only from military engagements but also from violence, famine, and plague but the Swiss confederacy is a "peaceful island." (Wikipedia and Ottenbach Municipality)
1661 Construction of the first Ottenbach schoolhouse
1645 - 1647 Construction of a mill wheel on the Reuss river
1638 Construction of the Ottenbach rectory. (Ottenbach Municipality Website)
Documents related to Fridle Sidler:
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| Fridli Sidler born 21 November 1613 film 8014328 page 80 |
(Sunday) 21. Novemb(ris) [1613]
E(ltern): Hans Sÿdler, Cathrin Kleinerin
K(ind): Fridli
Z(eugen): Fridli Häberlig, Barbel Sigeristin deß Bruders Frouw.
Note: So Barbara Sigrist is "the brother's wife" - brother of father or mother?
Note: If the father's brother, it would be a son of Johannes (born abt. 1547): I find Sidler, Niklaus, getraut mit Sigrist, Barbara … but no Niklaus as son of Johannes … did he have another son who has been missed so far? Could you check the marriage of 1608 - just in case it contains any useful information.
If the mother's brother, Barbara would be married to a Kleiner - but no suitable entry for either Sigrist, Sigerist nor Siegrist.
Kent:No Niklaus born 7 July 1588 in Ottenbach. No Niklaus Sidler buried in 1624. 1608 marriages:
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Sidler and Hegetschweiler Temple Record Book by Julius Billeter page 7 |
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| Sidler and Hegetschweiler Temple Record Book by Julius Billeter page 15 and 16 |
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| 1641 Fridli Sidler marriage to Barbara Stahl 12 Oct Ottenbach page 106 |
[1641]
Fridli Sÿdler von Ottenbach
Barbara Stehlin von Lummeren
den 12.ten tag 8bris
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| 1649 Ottenbach Bevölkerungsverzeichnisse Fridle Sidler 1613 film 0081126304 page 139 |
23. Fridli Sÿdler / Barbara Stehlin
Heini 6 iar alt
Verena 5 iar alt
Barbeli 1 iar alt
Wolf:
Den 8.ten Hornung [1674]
Barbel Stehelin, Fridlj Sÿdlers s(elig) allhir eheliche hinderlaßne Haußfr(ou)w
Note that the term hinderlaßne Haußfr(ou)w is used instead of Witwe - there is still no uncertainty: Fridli Sidlers selig = the late Fridli Sidler and hinderlaßneHaußfrouw = surviving wife.
Wolf: I am afraid - I might have extremely bad news (see attachment): we have two Johannes Sidler born 1583 - and my suspicion is that Billeter got them mixed up. Fridli's godmother was the wife of the father's brother. The only potential marriage is that of Barbara Sigrist with a Niklaus Sidler - the brother of "the other" Johannes.
What do you make of this?
See Niklaus Sidler and Barbara Sigrist marriage in 1608 below:
Heini 6 iar alt
Verena 5 iar alt
Barbeli 1 iar alt
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| 1670 Fridle Sidler b 1613 Bevölkerungsverzeichnisse film 007765846 page 382 |
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| Fridli Sidler death 16 January 1666 film 8014328 page 36 |
Kent: 1666 Fridi Sidler burial 16 January in Ottenbach
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| 1674 Barbel Stehel 8 Feb Ottenbach burial film 008014328 page 372 |
Den 8.ten Hornung [1674]
Barbel Stehelin, Fridlj Sÿdlers s(elig) allhir eheliche hinderlaßne Haußfr(ou)w
Note that the term hinderlaßne Haußfr(ou)w is used instead of Witwe - there is still no uncertainty: Fridli Sidlers selig = the late Fridli Sidler and hinderlaßneHaußfrouw = surviving wife.
Wolf: I am afraid - I might have extremely bad news (see attachment): we have two Johannes Sidler born 1583 - and my suspicion is that Billeter got them mixed up. Fridli's godmother was the wife of the father's brother. The only potential marriage is that of Barbara Sigrist with a Niklaus Sidler - the brother of "the other" Johannes.
What do you make of this?
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| Billeter Temple Record, Sidler page 5 Below: Jakob Sidler FS ID: K2JD-NCS |
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| Billeter Temple Record, Sidler page 8 |
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| Billeter Temple Record, Sidler page 9 |