Anna Sidler was born to Johannes Sidler and Katharina Kleiner in 1617. Her mother Katharina died when Anna was ten years
old. Johannes Sidler never re-married so he raised Anna and her 6 living
siblings by himself. FamilySearch has
her middle name as Katharina but we have not located verification of her middle
name. Whether or not it is true it seems like a good idea because naming her
after her mother is an honor. Julius Billeter called her just Anna. Anna FS ID: LH7N-NK6
Wolf: Hans Jakob Bär, addendum: ≈ Ottenbach 10.05.1618, son of Hans Ulrich oo Ottenbach 04.08.1646
Anna Sidler, ≈ Ottenbach 29.05.1617, daughter of Hans Sidler and Katharina Kleiner, + Ottenbach 11.04.1665
Wolf: On 25.05.1617 Hans Ulrich Bär of Ottenbach and Barbara Wydler of Rickenbach were married in Ottenbach: these could be the parents of Hans Jacob Bär. Assuming that Hans Jacob was older than his brothers, he was probably born between 1618 and 1623.
Ancient family already existing in the 14th century in the upper communities of the old Knonau district, now widespread in almost all communities of the Affoltern district and on the left bank of the upper Lake of Zurich.
Please only discuss the Bär von Ottenbach here.
After her birth her parents welcomed four more children into their home.
Verena died in infancy as did Barbara and Walthar but Othmar lived 25 years.
Death was no stranger to these people. There was constant giving births and
dying on the farms, similar to what happened in the stable with the animals.
Death was seen as natural. Only medicine and hygienic measures lowered the
infant and childhood mortality rate.
Many villages lost 30 to 40% of the Swiss population never lived past
infancy or the toddler age in the 17th century.. (Peter Bertschinger)
Anna lived during the 30 years war. More people
were killed in that war between Protestants and Catholics than in WWI. But
Switzerland was relatively peaceful. Anna married Hans Jakob Bär when she was
about 29. Anna had 15 children in 17 years which must be some kind of a record.
Her first five children died in infancy. This is the reason no children are
listed in the 1649 church Census. Eight
died altogether and 7 lived to adulthood. The seven children are all
represented in the 1670 Kirche Census. She lived 27 years 10 months 13 days.
We often see that from the age 20 years on, when
marriage was allowed by the church, the parents had least one child every year,
often stillborn. The rule for naming was that the godparents gave their first
name to the child,. For example if a child named Barbara died, they continued
the name until one survived the first years. From this Julius Billeter
concluded that a child died young and noted a "dy" by their name. On
average these big farmer families had about two boys and two girls that made it
to adulthood and most of them got married. (Peter Bertschinger)
During their lives:
1618 - 1649 The balance of power between the
Reformed and Catholic estates leads the Confederation to stay out of the Thirty
Years' War. (Ottenbach Municipality Website)
1600 - 1800 Switzerland is a loose confederacy
of 13 cities and small valley communities dominating the rest of the country. A
few families control state
The Thirty Years' War was a war fought in
Central Europe between 1618 and 1648. One of the most destructive conflicts in
human history, it resulted in eight million fatalities not only from military
engagements but also from violence, famine, and plague but the Swiss
confederacy is a "peaceful island." (Wikipedia and Ottenbach
Municipality)
Food
Pork, beef, poultry and other meats were
processed and preserved at home. Even the menus were seasonal; during the
spring and summer, more fruits and vegetables were eaten because they were
fresh and ripe, while in the winter families relied on preserved foods.
(Wikipedia)
1670 Census
The "T"means Testimonial (Zeugnusse,
Zeugnisse) and the “C” Communicantes or
Confirmation (those after the communicaton with 15 years can go to the Lords's
supper (Abendmahl) and partake of the sacrament. The Decal. refers to the 10
commandments Kirche curriculum. (Dr Ziegler Latin terms)
The church censuses were taken every few years.
The Ottenbach Pastor took all of his records and made a clean copy to send to
his higher ups. The census included the advancement of each child in the
church's curriculum.
First children learned how to pray, then they
learned the 10 commandments curriculum, the small confirmation book and finally
the large confirmation book. Anna's children are making good progress.
Anna Sidler's Children (from FamilySearch)
1. Katarina Bär 1646-
2. Elsbeth Bär 1648-1648
3. Catharina Bär 1649-
4. Jacob Bär 1650
5. Heini Bär 1651
6. Georg Heinrich Bär 1651-1727
7. Heinrich Bär 1652-
8. Barbara Bär 1652-1711
9. Rudi Bär 1653
10, Hans Bär 1653-1699
11. Rudolph Bär 1654
12. Hans Jageli (Jacob) Bär 1655-1703
13. Fridi Bär 1657-1682
14. Barbara Syedler Bär 1659-1711
15. Ulrich Bär 1663-1735
Documents related to Anna Sidler:
E(ltern): Hans Sÿdler, Cathrin Kleiner
K(ind): Anna
Z(eugen): Hans Rudi Sigerist, Anna Hoffstetterin, Hans Heini Groben frouw(???).
Note: I don't find a fitting marriage Anna Hofstettet & Hans Heinrich Grob in EDB.
BTW - I would definitely challenge your comment "The K in German script looks like an S.".
1. Katarina Bär 1646-
2. Elsbeth Bär 1648-1648
3. Catharina Bär 1649-
4. Jacob Bär 1650
5. Heini Bär 1651
6. Georg Heinrich Bär 1651-1727
7. Heinrich Bär 1652-
8. Barbara Bär 1652-1711
9. Rudi Bär 1653
10, Hans Bär 1653-1699
11. Rudolph Bär 1654
12. Hans Jageli (Jacob) Bär 1655-1703
13. Fridi Bär 1657-1682
14. Barbara Syedler Bär 1659-1711
15. Ulrich Bär 1663-1735
Documents related to Anna Sidler:
Anna Sidler baptism 29 May 1617
film 8014328 page 83
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Wolf:
(Thursday) 29. Maj [1617]E(ltern): Hans Sÿdler, Cathrin Kleiner
K(ind): Anna
Z(eugen): Hans Rudi Sigerist, Anna Hoffstetterin, Hans Heini Groben frouw(???).
Note: I don't find a fitting marriage Anna Hofstettet & Hans Heinrich Grob in EDB.
BTW - I would definitely challenge your comment "The K in German script looks like an S.".
1628 Hans Urich Bär Ottenbach burial 20 April page 176 |
1634 Bevölkerungsverzeichnis Barbel Wynderin film 008126308 page 293 |
Wolf:
Barbel Wydlerin wittfr. mit den Kindern Hans Jagli (16), Annli (13), Ulrich und Melcher (11), Jagli (10, Hans Rudi (8) und Ludi (6).Dies bedeutet, dass Hans Ulrich der Vater und Barbara Wydler die Mutter von Hans Jakob war.
Die Taufdaten der Kinder:
Hans Jakob: 10. Mai 1618
Anna: 13. Feb 1621
Ulrich: 4. Feb 1623
Melchior: 4. Feb 1623
Jakob: 6. Juni 1624
Hans Rudolf: 6. Aug 1626
Ludwig: 26. Feb 1628
LG Ueli
Anna Sidler and Hans Jakob Bär marriage 4 August 1646, Ottenbach, Züirch Archives reference: E III 88.2, S. 11 |
Hans Jakob Bär marriage to Anna Sidler 4 August 1646 film 8014328 page 107 |
Wolf:
Nota. (transcription)
Explicatio numerorum et abbreviaturarum per totum Catalogum observanda.
Numerus parentibus praefixus denotat familias in quovis page.Numerus liberis in medio praefixus indicat annos aetatis eorum.Abbreviatturae postpositae innuunt scientiam ipsorum Catecheticam hoc modo notatam.
… Tenent et recitant …
Wolf: Explanation of the numbers and abbreviations to be observed throughout the catalogue.
A number in front of the parents identifies the families on each page.
The number preceding the children in the centre indicates their age.
The following abbreviations indicate their catechetical knowledge labelled in this way.
... They understand and recite ...
Or.Do. >>> Orationem Dominicam (Sunday Prayer)
Symb. >>> Symbolum Apostolicum (Confession of faith)
Deca. >>> Decalogum (The Ten Commandments)
C.M.int. >>> Catechismum majorem integrum (Complete Large Catechism)
Q.CM.C. >>> Quaestiones Catechismi majoris ascriptas (Questions about the Large Catechism)
Testi. >>> Testimoniae Scripturaer Sacrae (The testimony of the Holy Scriptures)
Fr.int. >>> Fragmentae usquae ad Deca. Symb. Or.Do. (Fragments of the Ten Commandments, Confession of faith and Sunday Prayer)
Commu. >>> Communicantes coelibes ante S. [….] examinandi (Unmarried communicants prior to the ... exam)
Wolf:
Hans Jacob Bär / Anna Sÿdlerin / (daughter) Catharina 3 Monat alt
Barbara Wÿdlerin die alt Muter (Hans Jacob's widowed "old" mother)
Ulrich sein Bruder 25 iar alt / Jacob 24 iar alt / Hans Rudolff 22 iar alt
Nota. (transcription)
Explicatio numerorum et abbreviaturarum per totum Catalogum observanda.
Numerus parentibus praefixus denotat familias in quovis page.Numerus liberis in medio praefixus indicat annos aetatis eorum.Abbreviatturae postpositae innuunt scientiam ipsorum Catecheticam hoc modo notatam.
… Tenent et recitant …
Wolf: Explanation of the numbers and abbreviations to be observed throughout the catalogue.
A number in front of the parents identifies the families on each page.
The number preceding the children in the centre indicates their age.
The following abbreviations indicate their catechetical knowledge labelled in this way.
... They understand and recite ...
Or.Do. >>> Orationem Dominicam (Sunday Prayer)
Symb. >>> Symbolum Apostolicum (Confession of faith)
Deca. >>> Decalogum (The Ten Commandments)
C.M.int. >>> Catechismum majorem integrum (Complete Large Catechism)
Q.CM.C. >>> Quaestiones Catechismi majoris ascriptas (Questions about the Large Catechism)
Testi. >>> Testimoniae Scripturaer Sacrae (The testimony of the Holy Scriptures)
Fr.int. >>> Fragmentae usquae ad Deca. Symb. Or.Do. (Fragments of the Ten Commandments, Confession of faith and Sunday Prayer)
Commu. >>> Communicantes coelibes ante S. [….] examinandi (Unmarried communicants prior to the ... exam)
1649 Bevölkerungsverzeichnisse film 8126304 page 140 |
Hans Jacob Bär / Anna Sÿdlerin / (daughter) Catharina 3 Monat alt
Barbara Wÿdlerin die alt Muter (Hans Jacob's widowed "old" mother)
Ulrich sein Bruder 25 iar alt / Jacob 24 iar alt / Hans Rudolff 22 iar alt
(Ulrich his brother 25 years old / Jacob 24 years old / Hans Rudolff 22 years old)
There is a wedding in EDB: Ottenbach 25.05.1617 Hans Ulrich Bär von Ottenbach und Barbara Wydler von Rickenbach - the only fitting marriage, so these will likely be Hans Jacob's parents. If we assume that Hans Jacob was the oldest of the mentioned brothers, he will likely be born between 1618 and 1623.
This has been summarized on Geneal-Forum.
You may want to check earlier Bevölkerungsverzeichnisse for Hans Ulrich Bär and Barbara Wydler.
Kent: Anna Katharina Sidler and Hans Jacob Bär 1649 Church Census film 8126304 page 140, Because her first 5 children died infancy, in the 1649 Census there are no children at home however it appears they have taken in some relatives. This may be the reason no Pastoral notes on children's progress toward.
Confirmations are listed on the right side of the census.
There is a wedding in EDB: Ottenbach 25.05.1617 Hans Ulrich Bär von Ottenbach und Barbara Wydler von Rickenbach - the only fitting marriage, so these will likely be Hans Jacob's parents. If we assume that Hans Jacob was the oldest of the mentioned brothers, he will likely be born between 1618 and 1623.
This has been summarized on Geneal-Forum.
You may want to check earlier Bevölkerungsverzeichnisse for Hans Ulrich Bär and Barbara Wydler.
Kent: Anna Katharina Sidler and Hans Jacob Bär 1649 Church Census film 8126304 page 140, Because her first 5 children died infancy, in the 1649 Census there are no children at home however it appears they have taken in some relatives. This may be the reason no Pastoral notes on children's progress toward.
Confirmations are listed on the right side of the census.
Population register 1649 [Zurich State Archives, E II 700.79]: Household 42
Hans Jacob Bär / Anna Sÿdlerin / (daughter) Catharina 3 months old Barbara Wÿdlerin the old mother
Ulrich his brother 25 years old / Jacob 24 years old / Hans Rudolff 22 years old
Anna Katharina Sidler b 1617 and Hans Jacob Bär b 1618 Family
in 1670 Bevölkerungsverzeichniss film 7765846 page 383 |
Kent: Bevölkerungsverzeichniss by Pastor Hans Ulrich Wiesendanger. Anna is not listed because she died 5 years previously but her children are here. The word after Han’s name says viduus = widower at the time of census.
Wolf:
den 11. ten Aprel [1665]
Anna Sydlerin, Hanß Jaglj Bären allhir ehefra(au)w
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Anna Sidler burial 11 April 1665 film 8014328 page 369 |
den 11. ten Aprel [1665]
Anna Sydlerin, Hanß Jaglj Bären allhir ehefra(au)w
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1676 Hans Jakob Bär burial 29 Jun Ottenbach page 375 |