Friday, March 13, 2020

The Sidler's Of Ottenbach, Switzerland





















Sidler Questions:
Who experienced the most death in this Sidler line?
Who accidentally fell on his own knife and died?
Who was a "tailor" in Ottenbach?
Who was a "policeman" in Ottenbach?
Who was a "wagon builder" in Ottenbach?
Who was a "treasurer" in Ottenbach?
Who had 15 children and lived to almost 84?
Who was nicknamed "White"?
Who was a "morals caretaker" in Ottenbach?
Who joined the Church of Jesus Christ of LDS?

First generation
Johannes Sidler abt 1547 -1611
Magdalena Stälin abt 1550
     Johannes Sidler 1570
     Heinrich Sidler 1572 - 1623
     Hans Jakob Sidler 1576
     Elisabetha Sidler 1577
     Verena Sidler 1579 - 1628
     Susanna Sidler 1581
     Johannes Sidler 1583- +1625
     Aneli Sidler 1586
     Barbara Sidler 1590
     Mathis Sidler 1593

 Second generation
Johannes Sidler 1583 - +1625
Katharina Kleiner 1584-1627
     Hans Sidler 1606-1682
     Jakob Sidler,  1608-1693 Wagner
     Ludwig Sidler 1610-1688
     Rudolf Sidler 1612-1675
            Barbara Sidler 1640 m Jakob Huber 
            Hans Sidler 1641 m Katharina Huber, Kilchmejer
            Rudolf 1644
            Hans Kaspar Sidler 1647 m Barbara Gut
      Fridle Sidler 1613-1666
     Hans Heinrich Sidler 1615 Dec infant
     Anna Sidler 1617-1665
     Verena Sidler 1619  Dec infant
     Othmar Sidler 1621 
     Barbara Sidler 1623-1623 Dec at 3 mo
     Walthar Sidler 1625-1628 Dec at 3

 Third generation
Jakob Sidler 1608 -1693  Wagner Magister
Vronegg Urmi 1629-1657
        Vronegg's half brother Alexander handles the Farm Book, Ehegaumer 
        The Urmi family from Knonau 
        Felix Urmi
      Katharina Sidler 1631
        Hus Jakob Huber
      Melchior Sidler  1633-1706 Wagner
     Hans Rudolf Sidler, 1635-1710 Wagner
     Hans Sidler 1637 
     Verena Sidler 1639 Dec infant
     Jakob Sidler 1642-1683  
     Anna Sidler 1644-1699
        Anna Lüssi, Godmother

 Fourth generation
Hans Rudolf Sidler, 1635 - 1710  Wagner 
Margaretha Grob 1637-1683 Wife 1
Margaretha's parents:
Heinrich Grob 1605-1676 Miller 
Barbara Salzmann 1604-1672
     Heinrich Sidler,  1663-1731 Wagner
     Jakob Sidler 1665-1741
     Anna Sidler 1666-1728
     Vronegg Sidler 1668-1669 Dec. at 1
     Melchior Sidler 1670-Dec after 1711
     Jakob Sidler 1671-1672 Dec at 1
     Anna Sidler 1673-1738
     Vronegg Sidler 1675-1676 Dec at 1
     Heinrich Sidler 1677-1678 Dec at 1
     Heinrich Sidler 1678-1683 Dec at 4
     Joss Sidler 1680-Dec infant
Margaretha Jlli 16xx-1692 Wife 2
     Marx Sidler 1690-Dec infant

Fifth generation
Jacob Sidler,1665 -1741  Seckelmeister 
Veronica Häberling 1670-1728
Verena's parents
Hans Heinrich Häberling,  1625-1688 Wachtmeister
Veronica Gutt  1630-1688
     Othmar Sidler, 1691-1746 Secklemeister/ Adjutant 
     Anna Sidler 1693-1762
     David Sidler  1696-1720
     Katharina Sidler 1698- at least 1737
     Anna Sidler 1702-1752
     Hans Kaspar Sidler 1705-1768
     Melchior Sidler 1707-1765
   
Sixth generation
Hans Kaspar Sidler, 1705 -1768 Seckelmeister, Ehegaumer
Veronica Schneebeli 1709-1746 Wife 1
Pastor Hans Rudolf Hamberger 1709-1776 Ottenbach pastor 1757-1776
 Veronica's Parents:
Caspar Schneebeli 1679-1743
Margaretha Stierli 1684-1740
     Barbara Sidler 1729-1786
     Dorothea Sidler 1732 Dec infant
     Anna Sidler 1734-1770
     Barbara Sidler 1736-1802
     Rudolf Sidler 1742-1801
Elsbeth Schneebeli 1713-1765 Wife 2
Elsbeth's parents
Heinirch Schneebeli 1683-1751 Hafner/potter
Elsbet Schnebelin 1683 - 1745
      *Ulrich Sidler 1751-1800 *not Elsbeth's (b 1713) son, not in our line

Seventh generation
Hans Rudolf Sidler,  1742 -1801 Husb 1 Wachtmeister
Elisabetha Sidler 1747-1831
         Elisabeth's gggrandfather Niklaus Sidler 1588- 1657
 Elisabetha's parents:
Hans Jakob Sidler 1706 - 1771
        Caspar Sidler 1663-1732
            Rudolf Sidler 1615-1693 
            Anna Grob 1632-1700
                Thomas Grob 1591-1547
        Anna Wyder 1683-1749
 Anna Hug 1709 - 1773 1st hus. a Dachdecker or roofer
        Hans Hug 1670-1742 a Schmid or Smith
        Elisabeth Berli 1667-1713
            Hans Hug 1638-1733
            Elsbeth Hegetschweiler 1637-1718
 Hans Kaspar Schwarzenbach 1758 - 1828 Husb 2
     Hans Jakob Sidler 1768-1769 Dec at 1
     Dorothea Sidler 1769-1844
     Anna Barbara 1771-1774 Dec at 3
     Caspar Sidler 1772-1811
        Margaretha Berli wife 1777-1851
      Johannes Sidler 1773-1774 Dec at 1
     Johannes Sidler 1775 Dec infant
     Hans Jakob Sidler 1776-1777 Dec at 2
     Johannes Sidler 1777-1834
     Elisabetha Sidler 1779-1828
     Anna Sidler 1780-1846
     Heinrich Sidler 1781-1786 Dec at 5
     Jakob Sidler 1783-1862
     Hans Ulrich Sidler 1784-1826
     Hans Caspar Sidler 1786-1841
     Melchior Sidler 1788-1843

Eighth generation
Johannes Sidler 1777 -1834 Schneider 
     Jakob Sidler  1812 - 1869
          Anna Sidler 1811-1900
Susanna Jenta1804-1858
     Barbara Sidler 1825-1895
     Anna Sidler 1827-1862
     Susanna Sidler 1832-1862
Ottenbach postcards, population and videos
Ottenbach FamilySearch Records in English 2019
Ottenbach FamiySearch Records in English 2021
Ottenbach Land, Taxes and Government
Ottenbach Reformed Church 
Ottenbach Schulhaus
Ottenbach Videos  2019
Phone directory 
Pronunciation
 Post Restaurant in Ottenbach history
Post Restaurant
Religious Abbreviations in Bevölkerungsverzeichniss 
 Research Links
River Reuss
Sidlers Join the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
Swiss Genealogy
 Unabridged History of Sidler's 300 Years
Why are Pastors important?
Zürich German Terms

Notes: It is generally accepted by researchers in Switzerland that the name Ottenbach came from an Allemanic man named "Otto" who lived in the area. The word Bach means a creek; brook; or a rivulet. Since the River Reuss is the distinguishing feature of the community: Otto's Bach, or Ottenbach.

The name Sidler was spelled Siedler but in modern times is spelled Sidler. Billeter wisely standardized the spelling of Sidler. This is important for ease of computer searching. There are many spellings of Jacob as well but Jakob or Jacob have become the standard. The earliest Sidler in Ottenbach who Julius Billeter found goes back to Johannes Sidler born 1568. They and had 10 children!

 The only major mistake in 300 years of Sidler's that Julius Billeter made, that I found, was regarding the spouse of Jakob Sidler born 1742. 

How many Sidler documents? more than 300 unique documents found for the Sidler and Jenta families.

yearpopulation
146722 Households
1650320
18501,169
19001,107
1950971
20002,164
I think  320, 1,196 etc are people not households. 
In 1784, the cotton spinning mill employed 49% of the local population (430 people, 287 of whom worked all year round)
From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottenbach,_Switzerland
From a book: In 1634 there were 276 persons living in Ottenbach with 70 households.