His son Jakob, born in 1768, birth record says Rudolf was a Feldschr(ei)b(e)r [Clerk of a troop in the field - or just secretary of an army group] (See information below on this topic.)
Night Wachtmeister
The Nachtwächter played a vital role. Back when fire constituted a permanent threat to villages built of wood, he was an essential part of a network of watchmen, who patrolled the streets. From his perch, the watchman was tasked with sounding the alarm at the first whiff of smoke. Sometimes he used the church tower as a lookout. (The Local.ch)
What happened to their children?
1. Hans
Jakob Sidler 1768-1769 died at 5 years 2 months 5 days
2. Dorothea Sidler 1769-1844 married Hans Kaspar Bär 4 December 1792, had 8 children, died 17 June 1844, lived to be 74 years 6 months 14 days
2. Dorothea Sidler 1769-1844 married Hans Kaspar Bär 4 December 1792, had 8 children, died 17 June 1844, lived to be 74 years 6 months 14 days
3. Anna
Barbara 1771-1774 b 21 Jan 1771 died 14 May 1774. She was 3 years 3 months 23 days old.
4. Caspar Sidler 1772-1811 married Elisabetha Hegetschweiler in 1799, Elisabetha gave birth to a still born child on 24 September 1800, two days later Elisabetha Hegetschweiler died at age 23, Caspar and his second wife, Margaretha Berli, had four children, lived 39 years, 5 months 9 days
4. Caspar Sidler 1772-1811 married Elisabetha Hegetschweiler in 1799, Elisabetha gave birth to a still born child on 24 September 1800, two days later Elisabetha Hegetschweiler died at age 23, Caspar and his second wife, Margaretha Berli, had four children, lived 39 years, 5 months 9 days
5. Johannes
Sidler 1773-1774 b 25 Oct 1773 died 17 May 1774, lived 6 months 22 days.
6. Johannes Sidler 1774 infant death
7. Hans Jakob Sidler 1776-1777 lived 1 year 9 months 10 days
8. Johannes Sidler 1777-1834 child out of wedlock with brother Caspar's widow, married Susanna Jenta, tailor, had three girls, large posterity, lived 56 years 6 months 7 days
9. Elisabetha Sidler 1779-1828 second wife of Heinrich Berli who had 3 wives, no children, lived 49 years 10 days according to her death record
6. Johannes Sidler 1774 infant death
7. Hans Jakob Sidler 1776-1777 lived 1 year 9 months 10 days
8. Johannes Sidler 1777-1834 child out of wedlock with brother Caspar's widow, married Susanna Jenta, tailor, had three girls, large posterity, lived 56 years 6 months 7 days
9. Elisabetha Sidler 1779-1828 second wife of Heinrich Berli who had 3 wives, no children, lived 49 years 10 days according to her death record
10. Anna
Sidler 1780-1846 married Rudolf Hurter of Affoltern, lived to
be 66. According to FamilySearch she had 12 children, lived 65 years 7 months 28 days
11. Heinrich
Sidler 1781-1786 lived 4 years 8 months 6 days
12. Jakob Sidler 1783-1862 married Elisabeth Gut, no children (Billeter made a mistake on this person) lived about 61 years
12. Jakob Sidler 1783-1862 married Elisabeth Gut, no children (Billeter made a mistake on this person) lived about 61 years
13. Hans
Ulrich Sidler 1784-1826 married Anna Barbara Schneebeli, had a stillborn daughter and a son who married
14. Hans Caspar Sidler 1786-1841 married Anna Häberling, 2 children, the boy married the girl didn't lived 54 years 2 months 2 days
15. Melchior Sidler 1788-1843 "since 1812 carpenter in Vienna", died in Ottenbach 54 years 5 months 18 days
14. Hans Caspar Sidler 1786-1841 married Anna Häberling, 2 children, the boy married the girl didn't lived 54 years 2 months 2 days
15. Melchior Sidler 1788-1843 "since 1812 carpenter in Vienna", died in Ottenbach 54 years 5 months 18 days
Nachtwächter
There were also the Nachtwächter or night
guard, who had to observe the closing hours of restaurants and where important
to alarm fires. They normally would also call the hour, every hour with a
little song: "Liebe Leute lasst Euch sagen, es hat zwei geschlagen."
(Dear people let it be known that the church watch shows 2 o'clock).
The Canton Landjäge (police) usually wore a
saber on the left hand side, some type of pistol and a big moustache to
generate more respect. One of their duties was to prevent foreign beggars and
other vagabonds from entering the town or village. They chased them out of the city limits.
Often the best trick was to give them a voucher for a meal with the condition
that they had to leave by evening at which time they went to the next town. The
word Landjäge also means pork sausage. So the joke goes like this: What happens if you
throw a stone in the window of the police office? A Landjäger comes out. Rudolf
may well have been involved in keeping strangers out of Ottenbach. He certainly
had a more simple uniform and carried a pistol.
Night Watchman from Wikipedia:
The task of the night watchman was to go through the streets and alleys of the city at night and to ensure peace and order. He warned the sleeping citizens of fires , enemies and thieves . He monitored the proper locking of the front doors and city gates . Often one of the tasks of the night watchman was to announce the hours - less as information than more to indicate that he was doing his duty properly. This announcement could also take the form of a night watchman song. [1] The night watchman had the right to stop, question and, if necessary, arrest suspicious people who were out and about at night.
Ulrich Neitzel: The word Wachtmeister (usually without
Umlaut!) has had varying meanings over time. Basically it was a lower
rank designation in the military and police (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wachtmeister). In colloquial language it refers to a uniformed police officer. In a small community like Graben a Wachtmeister had probably a bunch of official duties, including but not restricted to the oversight of the local detention cell.
The task of the night watchman was to go through the streets and alleys of the city at night and to ensure peace and order. He warned the sleeping citizens of fires , enemies and thieves . He monitored the proper locking of the front doors and city gates . Often one of the tasks of the night watchman was to announce the hours - less as information than more to indicate that he was doing his duty properly. This announcement could also take the form of a night watchman song. [1] The night watchman had the right to stop, question and, if necessary, arrest suspicious people who were out and about at night.
Typical equipment of a night watchman included a halberd or similar polearm , lantern, and horn . The night watchman, although he carried out an important job in the city, such as the skinner or the hangman , was mostly one of the dishonest professions and therefore lived in very modest circumstances. There are several exceptions to this rule. In Bavaria Friedberg , , for example, the night watchmen were taken in turn by the guild boys. In Speyer , the city council set up a well-endowed "night council" with city council powers, which was capable of reading and writing and which must have previously achieved the rank of sergeant. In Mainz , the military kept the night watch, for which the Walpode was responsible.
At the beginning of the 19th century the task of the night watchman changed insofar as there were increasingly "silent" night watchmen, which was made possible by the invention of the watchman's noctuaries and laborer's regulators by the Englishman Samuel Day (1803). These are mechanical watches in which the night watchman had to put a slip of paper into a previously covered hole at certain hours as evidence of his regular tour. In the morning, a police officer checked that all the holes were filled.
In his features section published in 1843 Berlins Moral Neglect writes , Karl Gutzkow :
“The theft in easier by Berlin is made the lack of supervision and the furnishing of the houses. The number of night watchmen is far too small. These 'purrs' are old, retired military personnel or other prospects who, out of desperation, take up a service that they almost only do pro forma. The night watchmen in Berlin are often decrepit old people. With a meager salary, they are on the sports of dependent their service. [...] The Berlin night watchman has a bunch of a hundred house keys hanging on his body and unlocks anyone who wishes to enter the first best house after ten o'clock in the evening. The are his tips earnings . You can see that there is no place in the world where thieves are as comfortable as in Berlin.
The night watchman's area is too spacious. He has more streets under him than he can supervise. Busy with his tips, he cares very little about street life. He only listens to someone calling him to be let into a house. [...] The tours through the streets are made without paying any attention. [...] If he makes his tour, his pipe announces him and the thieves have time to disperse while he is passing.
Berlin must triple the number of guards and place them under a military discipline like Hamburg . The Hamburg Guardians are a real protective guard against the enemies of order and property. "
- Karl Gutzkow: Berlin - Panorama of a cosmopolitan city
Robert Seal: Here is an article about the "Nachtwächter" as a profession from the German Wikipedia: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nachtw%C3%A4chter This may provide additional information to what you already have. Robert
Feldschreiber
Field observer means Feldmesser or
Feldschreiber. He measures the fields
and records the measures and the owners into the real estate books, or
registers (Grundprotokoll or Grundbuch). He is a kind of notary public in the
country side. The Ottenbach area has large fields and rolling green hills which
to record. The Reuss River flows from Lake Lucerne past Ottenbach providing
plenty of water, brush and large stands of trees. It is the perfect bio-system
for fur bearing animals for a furrier to work with. According to a descendant
of Hans, Andreas Sidler, the coat of
arms for the Sidler family is a black deer head exaggerated by black rust. The
area is ideal for wildlife. During the summer there are small boats on the
river and it is safe to swim and play in the water. (Peter Bertschinger)
Hans Rudolf married Elizabeth Sidler and they
had 15 children. Hans died in 1801 at 58 in Ottenbach leaving Elizabeth alone
for 6 years, dying in 1807. That was way before Johannes married and had
children. (Temple Record Sidler and Hegetschweiler, by Julius Billeter, page 49;
photos of old Ottenbach)
During their lives:
1753 Village fire reduces the whole Ottenbach
village center, with the exception of the restaurant Engel, to rubble and
ashes. The Engel aka Angel was the only building in the centre of Ottenbach to
live through the village fire of 1753. From 1881 until the closure of the
Restaurant in 1994, the Angel, led by a Collective, had a symbolic character as
a so-called alternative pickling bath for the social Ottenbach population. (Ottenbach Told by
Bernard Schnider and Salomon Schneider and Erika Schmid; This building, with
half timbers, is located in the center of town and can be seen on a postcard at
the end of text. The Ottenbach Reformed Church was unaffected by the fire.)
1799 Construction of the political community
of Ottenbach, which also includes the five Obfelder hamlets. The quartering of
French troops leads to a debt of the community. Ottenbach counts at that time
many unemployed textile homeworkers. (Ottenbach Municipality website, Ottenbach
Told by Bernard Schnider and Salomon Schneider and Erika Schmid)
1798 French army under the command of
Napoleon invaded Switzerland. Switzerland was completely overrun by the French
and was renamed the Helvetic Republic. The Helvetic Republic encountered severe
economic and political problems. In 1798 the country became a battlefield of
the Revolutionary Wars, culminating in the Battles of Zürich in 1799. The
Second Battle of Zurich (25–26 September 1799) was a key victory by the
Republican French army in Switzerland led by André Masséna over an Austrian and
Russian force commanded by Alexander Korsakov near Zürich. (Wikipedia)
1801 The Helvetic Government grants Ottenbach
the license to carry out any transport with the Reuss ferry. Previously, the
ferry was only approved for its own use.
1802 Swiss revolt forced French army to leave
Switzerland. (Ottenbach Municipality Website)
1798 "Napoleon invades Switzerland"
Towards evening, a troop of stormy French approached the mill, 1 mile south of
Ottenbach, surrounded them noisily, and demanded entry with bayonets. Out of
the big sacks the soldiers carry on their backs, stolen goods from Central
Switzerland stood out. Cluttering, they invaded the house. But when the
delightful scent of freshly cooked hams and soup poured out of their kitchen
into their noses, they threw aside their weapons and sacks and rushed wildly at
the food. Frau Miillerin kept calm and always scooped up the plates of soup and
meat. She served the horde as generously as she could and did not spare the
wine from the big barrel in the cellar. The soldiers filled their bellies and
when they were full, they crawled into all corners and fell asleep. In the
morning, she awoke them with scent of fresh coffee and freshly baked bread.
With a full stomach and peacefully tuned, the soldiers then left the mill
Rickenbach, without letting anything run and moved on. Thus, the mill and
probably the whole village escaped the feared fate, thanks to the brave Mrs.
Regula Funk. (This story was published in December 1985, in the village booklet
"De Ottebächler" Nr.25. Publisher: Gewerbeverein Ottenbach)
Why did so many Sidler's stay in Ottenbach?
The Johannes Sidler line has about 117 direct
line ancestors including children who lived in Ottenbach. To give this
perspective Johannes had 29 direct line ancestors in Ottenbach, 7 in Zurich, 1
in Knonau, 2 in Bickwel, 2 in Erienbach, 2 in Ettenhausen, and 1 in Birr. Why?
In the 19th century it was rare for people to
move from their home village. German expert genealogist, Larry Jensen, did a
year long study in Germany and found only 7 percent changed towns from 1500
to 1900. Why? Transportation was difficult because horses were expensive as
stated. Most people traveled on foot and many stayed in their village most of
their lives. Also once a person was born in a community the church was held
responsible for the individual. If they moved away and got into debt their
village took them back and worked out the problem. Even today in Switzerland a
person's birth location is very important and citizens feel an allegiance to
their village of origin. (Larry Jensen, 2019, genealogist)
What church did Rudolf attend?
The Reformed branch of Protestantism in
Switzerland started in Zürich in 1519 by Huldrych Zwingli. He changes the country from Catholic to
Protestant. Zwingli was killed in battle against Catholic forces from central
Switzerland in 1531. Until the late 1870s, most cantonal reformed churches
stopped prescribing any particular creed. Today 2 million Swiss citizens call
this Evangelical Reformed Kirche theirs. When we visited Ottenbach in 2019 we
observed a mid-week meeting in the rectory next to the Evangelical Reformed
Church of Ottenbach. The rectory bulletin board displayed a wide variety of
activities. (Wikipedia)
Who were the pastors for Hans Rudolf Sidler?
1737. Balthasar Zwingli, son of Hans Heinrich Zwingli. The greatest, most handsome man among all his brothers in office. In 1753 almost all of Ottenbach burned down. The pastor fell ill, had epilepsy (apoplectic) coincidences, never went to the pulpit again, died in 1757.
1776. David Locher. He died in 1796.
1796. Johannes Weber. He died in 1800. (Kept a school; diary from beginning of 1797 in Ottenbach. It provides information about the content and form of school lessons in Ottenbach during the revolutionary years up to 1800)
1800. Hans Jakob Locher, from Zurich. The community did not like his choice of establishing a poorhouse. Died in 1834. (Still known to the old people today under the name "Kammerer Locher". Hans died six days before Johannes Sidler. Some Ottenbach boys desecrated his grave. Hans was Johannes Pastor for 34 years. Hans Jakob Locher (1761-1834), pastor of Ottenbach, married to Anna Katharina Pfenninger. Had 13 children according to FamilySearch)
From FS: When Hans Jacob Locher was born on 12 October 1761, in Zürich, Zürich, Switzerland, his father, Dietrich Locher, was 31 and his mother, Elisabetha Breitinger, was 30. He married Anna Catharina Pfenninger on 1 February 1795, in Zürich, Switzerland. They were the parents of at least 6 sons and 7 daughters. He died on 25 October 1834, in Ottenbach, Zürich, Switzerland, at the age of 73.
Two Interesting Men
Two of the most interesting people on this
family tree or any tree are Susanna Jenta's father and father-in-law. First of all
they had the same name: Rudolf. The name is of Ancient Germanic origin meaning
“fame”, “glory” and olf meaning “wolf.”
Both men were civic leaders, Jenta on a village council, Sidler as a
village policeman. In 1900 Jenta lived
in a village of 434 inhabitants with 119 households. Sidler lived in a village
of about 900 people and 200 households. Both grew up and lived out their lives
in small Swiss villages. Jenta lived to 51.5, Sidler lived to 58 and 9 mo. (Our
World Data, Wikipedia Ottenbach, FamilySearch)
Childhood Mortality
Susanna's in-laws Rudolf Sidler and
Elisabetha Sidler had 15 children. Nine lived to adulthood and married.
Susanna’s parents Rudolf Jenta and Lisabeth Frei had twelve children and one
more with Mary Huber making thirteen. Seven lived to adulthood and married.
Rudolf Jenta died 1 year 4 months after his last child was born leaving 30 year
old Mary Huber with 7 children from 20 years old to 1 year four months to
raise. Strange as it may seem, even though Rudolf Jenta married at 21 and had a
large family he died two years before any of them married so he never saw any
of his children marry and never saw a grandchild. The reason for this is
because his first child, Barbara, died at 20.5 and his next three died in
infancy. Rudolf Sidler also never saw any of his three girls marry or saw any
grandchildren. The reason is because didn't begin having his family until he was 48 and only
lived to 57. Even his illegitimate son Jakob didn't start to have grandchildren
until five years after Johannes' death. Compared to today, life was difficult
for these strong Swiss. They were aquatinted with a lot of death.
We often see that from the age 20 years on,
when marriage was allowed by the church, the parents had least one child every
year, often stillborn. The rule for naming was that the godparents gave their
first name to the child,. For example if a child named Barbara died, they
continued the name until one survived the first years. From this Julius
Billeter concluded that a child died young and noted a "dy" by their name.
On average these big farmer families had about two boys and two girls that made
it to adulthood and most of them got married. (Peter Bertschinger)
Second marriage
If a woman died after the birth of a child
(this was a dangerous process because of infections), her younger sister
stepped in as new wife, or replacement. The husband (here farmer in the
country) absolutely needed a wife to look after the children and farm house
(cooking etc.). So he normally got remarried a second, or third time within a
few months; later a one year period was recommended. Often these wives were
widows themselves. So there was constant giving births and dying on the farms,
similar to what happened in the stable with the animals. Death was seen as
natural. Only medicine and hygienic measures lowered the infant and childhood
mortality rate. However, there were very bad pestulenza waves in the 17th
century in our regions. Many villages lost 30% to 40% of their population. (Peter
Bertschinger)
Susanna was 27 years younger than Johannes.
They married 23 December 1824 and had
their first child, Barbara, 3 months 5 days later. Barbara was not considered
illegitimate because her parents were married when she was born. Susanna's
father died two years previously and her mother 8 years before so they were not
there to share in the happy events. (Temple Record Sidler and Hegetschweiler by
Julius Billeter, page 74 and Zurich Archives Family Record E III 88.19, S. 434)
Cause of Death
Cause of Death
Hans Rudolf Sidler died from Abschlaachung which is also
referred to as Auszehrung, Abzehr, or Schwindsucht. He died from the getting
thinner and thinner, which in those times was often caused by tuberculosis. In
the 1800s TB killed one out of every seven people living in Europe and the
United States. TB was commonly called “consumption.” It was also called the
“Captain of all these men of death.” Tuberculosis is spread the same way a cold
is by breathing in the infected droplets put into the air when someone sneezes,
coughs or spits. From the lungs the bacteria spreads to the rest of the body.
It can lay dormant for many years but when it becomes active it slowly wastes
people away. Until the 1950s the only treatment was rest, good food, gentle
exercise for years. The first sanatoriums were established in places like
Switzerland in the 1850s to cater to those people. There people learned self
control. They controlled their coughing and encouraged to think good thoughts.
Burial
Rudolf Sidler, 59, like his predecessors, was buried in the Ottenbach Reformed Church grounds on the 7 January 1801. His wife Elisabetha, who lived another thirty years, was present, as well as Dorothea 32, Caspar 29, Johannes 24, Elisabetha 22, Anna 21, Jacob 18 and Ulrich 17. Seeing as he probably knew everyone in the town of 900 people, there must have been many neighbors and cousins. He helped the town of Ottenbach be safer and protected the town from the ravages of fire. Others may have had their land deeds recorded by him or have a hat or coat made of fur he gathered. It was a sad beginning to the year when they said goodbye to Rudolf Sidler, Night Watchman, Furrier, Fieldmesser, husband, son and father. Wolf:
1) Hans Rudolf Sidler (1742-1801) und Nachkommen (Descendants)
Post by Wolf » Fri 19. Jul 2024, 15:21
1) Hans Rudolf Sidler, ≈ Ottenbach 01.04.1742, Sohn von Hans Kaspar Sidler und Veronica Schneebeli, Nachtwächter und Wachtmeister, + Ottenbach 07.01.1801
oo Ottenbach 26.01.1768
Elisabetha Sidler, ≈ Ottenbach 10.12.1747, Tochter des Hans Jakob [oo Ottenbach 06.03.1747] Anna Hug, + Ottenbach 12.11.1831 / ■ Ottenbach 15.11.1831
Nachkommen:
1.1) Hans Jakob Sidler, *1768, +1769
1.2) Dorothea Sidler, *04.12.1769, +1844, oo 1792 Hans Kaspar Bär, 8 Kinder
1.3) Anna Barbara, *21.01.1771, +14.05.1774.
1.4) Caspar Sidler, *1772, +1811, ooI 1799 Elisabetha Hegetschweiler, *1777, +26.09.1800 (siehe Familienregister)
1.4.1) Kind (totgeboren) 24.09.1800
1.4) Caspar Sidler, *09.02.1772, +18.07.1811, ooII Margaretha Berli (1777-1851) (siehe Familienregister)
1.4.2) … 1.4.6)
1.5) Johannes Sidler, *25.10.1773, +17.05.1774
1.6) Johannes Sidler, *1774, verstirbt als Kleinkind
1.7) Hans Jakob Sidler, *1776, +1777
1.8) Johannes Sidler, *1777, +1834, uneheliche Verbindung (illeget. union) mit Margaretha Berli (1777-1851), Witwe des Bruders Caspar Sidler (Widow of the brother Caspar Sidler)
1.8.1) Hans Jakob Sidler, *14.09.1812, †28.12.1869, oo 1836 Anna Sidler (1811-1900)
1.8) Johannes Sidler, *1777, +1834, oo Susanna Jenta, *1804, +1858
1.8.2) ... 1.8.4)
1.9) Elisabetha Sidler, *1779, +1828, oo Heinrich Beerli (seine zweite von 3 Ehefrauen)(second of three wives) , keine Kinder
1.10) Anna Sidler, *1780, +1846, oo Rudolf Hurter von Affoltern am Albis, 12 Kinder (12 children)
1.11) Heinrich Sidler, *1781, +1786
1.12) Jakob Sidler, *1783, +1862, oo Elisabeth Gut, keine Kinder (no Kinder)
1.13) Hans Ulrich Sidler, *1784, +1826, oo Anna Barbara Schneebeli
1.13.1) & 1.13.2)
1.14) Hans Caspar Sidler, *1786, +1841, oo Anna Häberling
1.14.1) & 1.14.2)
1.15) Melchior Sidler, 1788-1843
Elisabetha Sidler (1747-1831)
ooII Ottenbach 06.03.1808
Hans Caspar Schwarzenbach, * Waldi / ≈ Kilchberg 08.01.1758 (Sohn von Salomon & Regula Hotz), + Adliswil 19.05.1828 / ■ Kilchberg 22.05.1828
Er war in erster Ehe (Kilchberg 23.06.1778) mit Elisabeth Welti von Adliswil verheiratet, die am 12.03.1805 verstorben war. (His first marriage (Kilchberg 23.06.1778) was to Elisabeth Welti of Adliswil, who died on 12.03.1805.)
1) Hans Rudolf Sidler (1742-1801) und Nachkommen (Descendants)
Post by Wolf » Fri 19. Jul 2024, 15:21
1) Hans Rudolf Sidler, ≈ Ottenbach 01.04.1742, Sohn von Hans Kaspar Sidler und Veronica Schneebeli, Nachtwächter und Wachtmeister, + Ottenbach 07.01.1801
oo Ottenbach 26.01.1768
Elisabetha Sidler, ≈ Ottenbach 10.12.1747, Tochter des Hans Jakob [oo Ottenbach 06.03.1747] Anna Hug, + Ottenbach 12.11.1831 / ■ Ottenbach 15.11.1831
Nachkommen:
1.1) Hans Jakob Sidler, *1768, +1769
1.2) Dorothea Sidler, *04.12.1769, +1844, oo 1792 Hans Kaspar Bär, 8 Kinder
1.3) Anna Barbara, *21.01.1771, +14.05.1774.
1.4) Caspar Sidler, *1772, +1811, ooI 1799 Elisabetha Hegetschweiler, *1777, +26.09.1800 (siehe Familienregister)
1.4.1) Kind (totgeboren) 24.09.1800
1.4) Caspar Sidler, *09.02.1772, +18.07.1811, ooII Margaretha Berli (1777-1851) (siehe Familienregister)
1.4.2) … 1.4.6)
1.5) Johannes Sidler, *25.10.1773, +17.05.1774
1.6) Johannes Sidler, *1774, verstirbt als Kleinkind
1.7) Hans Jakob Sidler, *1776, +1777
1.8) Johannes Sidler, *1777, +1834, uneheliche Verbindung (illeget. union) mit Margaretha Berli (1777-1851), Witwe des Bruders Caspar Sidler (Widow of the brother Caspar Sidler)
1.8.1) Hans Jakob Sidler, *14.09.1812, †28.12.1869, oo 1836 Anna Sidler (1811-1900)
1.8) Johannes Sidler, *1777, +1834, oo Susanna Jenta, *1804, +1858
1.8.2) ... 1.8.4)
1.9) Elisabetha Sidler, *1779, +1828, oo Heinrich Beerli (seine zweite von 3 Ehefrauen)(second of three wives) , keine Kinder
1.10) Anna Sidler, *1780, +1846, oo Rudolf Hurter von Affoltern am Albis, 12 Kinder (12 children)
1.11) Heinrich Sidler, *1781, +1786
1.12) Jakob Sidler, *1783, +1862, oo Elisabeth Gut, keine Kinder (no Kinder)
1.13) Hans Ulrich Sidler, *1784, +1826, oo Anna Barbara Schneebeli
1.13.1) & 1.13.2)
1.14) Hans Caspar Sidler, *1786, +1841, oo Anna Häberling
1.14.1) & 1.14.2)
1.15) Melchior Sidler, 1788-1843
Elisabetha Sidler (1747-1831)
ooII Ottenbach 06.03.1808
Hans Caspar Schwarzenbach, * Waldi / ≈ Kilchberg 08.01.1758 (Sohn von Salomon & Regula Hotz), + Adliswil 19.05.1828 / ■ Kilchberg 22.05.1828
Er war in erster Ehe (Kilchberg 23.06.1778) mit Elisabeth Welti von Adliswil verheiratet, die am 12.03.1805 verstorben war. (His first marriage (Kilchberg 23.06.1778) was to Elisabeth Welti of Adliswil, who died on 12.03.1805.)
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Rudolf Sidler birth 1 April 1742 online FamilySearch Film 8014328 page 418Pastor Balthasar Zwingli did a great job on this entry.
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1742 Eodem (= 1. Aprill): Ruedolff Sÿdler, obit 7.1.(1)801
H(an)s Caspar Sÿdler / Veronica Schneblj von Ottenbach
Ruedolff Sÿdler , Melchers Sohn zu Ottenbach / Fr(au) Barbara Eberhartin, H(e)r(rn) Heß in Zürich Fr(au?) Ehel.(oo 24.01.1730)
See Promptuarium Genealogicum: 66.46 David 1705-1769
1742 Eodem (= April 1): Ruedolff Sÿdler, obit 7.1.(1)801
H(an)s Caspar Sÿdler / Veronica Schneblj from Ottenbach
Ruedolff Sÿdler , Melcher's son at Ottenbach / Fr(au) Barbara Eberhartin, H(e)r(rn) Heß in Zurich Fr(au?) Ehel.(oo 24.01.1730)
See Promptuarium Genealogicum: 66.46 David 1705-1769
Thode: Melcher = Melchior
Kent: If I am reading the witnesses correctly they are:
- Rudolf Sÿdler, Melcher's (Melchior) son from Ottenbach /
- Wife Barbara Eberhardin and Herrn (David) Hess in Zurich, married
Sidler b 1719 who is the father of Ulrich Sidler b 1751 - 1800.
Witness Rudolf's wife Anna Schneebeli is the sister to
Veronica Schneebeli. Veronica is Hans Kaspar Sidler's
b 1705 wife. Hans Kaspar b 1705 is Rudolf's father.
In fact Rudolf b 1742 was most likely named after witness
Rudolf Sidler b 1719.
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| Hans Kaspar Sidler b 1705 in the 1749 Church Census film 8014124 page 91 the last entry is Rudolf is a 7 year old. |
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| 1749 Ottenbach Church Census or Bevölkerungsverzeichnis E II 265,S, 137-223 film 0008014124 page 91 Includes birth dates and religious learning progress of each family member living in 1749 |
Hans Caspar Sidler b 29 March 1705. J. Com (partaken of the holy sacrament)
Note: The Ottenbach Pastor in 1749 was 1737. Balthasar Zwingli, son of Hans Heinrich Zwingli. The greatest, most handsome man among all his brothers in office. In 1753 almost all of Ottenbach burned down. The pastor fell ill, had epilepsy (apoplectic) coincidences, never went to the pulpit again, died in 1757.
Elsbeth Schneebeli (stepmother) b 28 November 1703 J. Com (partaken of the holy sacrament)
Barbara b 19 Sep 1729 J. (Testi. Testimoniae Scripturaer Sacrae (The testimony of the Holy Scriptures)
Dorothea b 11 May 1732 J. (Testi. Testimoniae Scripturaer Sacrae (The testimony of the Holy Scriptures)
Anna b 7 Dec 1734 J. (Testi. Testimoniae Scripturaer Sacrae (The testimony of the Holy Scriptures)
Anna Barbara b 21 Oct 1736 J. (Testi. Testimoniae Scripturaer Sacrae (The testimony of the Holy Scriptures)
Rudolph b 1 April 1742 Symb (Symb. Symbolum Apostolicum (Confession of faith)
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1768 Rudolf and Elisabetha Sidler marriage January 26 online FamilySearch film 8014328 page 600 |
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| 1742 Hans Rudolf Sidler Familybook film 008126955 page 197 |
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1795 Ottenbach
Haushaltungsrodel, image 197 film 8126955)
Rudolf Sidler family record,
See notes next to Johannes's name
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Zurich Archives Ottenbach
Family record, E III 88.19, S. 72 |
Death of Hans Rudolf Sidler
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Rudolf Sidler death 7
January 1801 FS online film 8126955 page 822
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| Rudolf Sidler death 7 January 1801 FS online film 8126955 page 822 The cause of death on right namely Abschlaachung |
1801 den 6ten Jan.
Rudolf Sidler von Ottenbach
58 Jahr 9 Mnt
For the cause of death I'm at a loss ☹. You read "Abschlaachung" - I have nothing better to offer - but have never heard this before and cannot find it anywhere.
Note: The Pastor who presided at Hans Rudolf's funeral was Hans Jakob Locher.
Cause of Death
Hans Rudolf Sidler died from Abschlaachung which is also referred to as Auszehrung, Abzehr, or Schwindsucht. He died from the getting thinner and thinner, which in those times was often caused by tuberculosis. In the 1800s TB killed one out of every seven people living in Europe and the United States. TB was commonly called “consumption.” It was also called the “Captain of all these men of death.” Tuberculosis is spread the same way a cold is by breathing in the infected droplets put into the air when someone sneezes, coughs or spits. From the lungs the bacteria spreads to the rest of the body. It can lay dormant for many years but when it becomes active it slowly wastes people away. Until the 1950s the only treatment was rest, good food, gentle exercise for years. The first sanatoriums were established in places like Switzerland in the 1850s to cater to those people. There people learned self control. They controlled their coughing and encouraged to think good thoughts.
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| Most likely Hans was buried in the Ottenbach churchyard. |
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1742 Rudolf Sidler birth with
death date noted by parish priest.
Rudolf Sidler birth 1 April
1742, Film 8014328 page 418
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| Rudolf Siedler, Wachtmeister |
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| "Rudolf Siedler, Wachtmeister" computer version of German script |
Hans Rudolf Sidler Timeline:
Birth 01 Apr 1742
• Ottenbach, Zürich, Switzerland 1742
(AGE)
Marriage 26 Jan
1768 • Ottenbach, Zürich, Switzerland
Elisabetha Sidler (1747–1831)
25 years old
Birth of Son Hans
Jakob Sidler(1768–1769)
25 Oct 1768 • Ottenbach, Zürich, Switzerland
26 years old
Death of Son Hans
Jakob Sidler (1768–1769)
13 Apr 1769 • Ottenbach, Zürich, Switzerland
27 years old
Birth of Daughter
Dorothea Sidler (1769–)
10 Dec 1769 • Ottenbach, Zürich, Switzerland
27 years old
Birth of Daughter Anna
Barbara Sidler (1771–1774)
27 Jan 1771 • Ottenbach, Zürich, Switzerland
28 years old
Birth of Son Hans
Kaspar Sidler (1772–)
09 Feb 1772 • Ottenbach, Zürich, Switzerland
29 years old
Death of Father Hans
Kaspar Sidler (1705–1772)
18 Jun 1772 • Ottenbach, Zürich, Switzerland
30 years old
Birth of Son Johannes
Sidler (1773–1774)
24 Oct 1773 • Ottenbach, Zürich, Switzerland 1773 31
Death of Daughter Anna
Barbara Sidler (1771–1774)
14 May 1774 Ottenbach, Zürich, Switzerland
32 years old
Death of Son Johannes
Sidler (1773–1774)
17 May 1774 • Ottenbach, Zürich, Switzerland
32 years old
Birth of Son Johannes
Sidler (1775–)
01 Jan 1775 • Ottenbach, Zürich, Switzerland
32 years old
Birth of Son Hans
Jakob Sidler (1776–1777)
28 Jan 1776 • Ottenbach, Zürich, Switzerland
33 years old
Birth of Son Johannes
Sidler (1777–)
25 Jul 1777 • Ottenbach, Zürich, Switzerland
35 years old
Death of Son Hans
Jakob Sidler (1776–1777)
06 Nov 1777 • Ottenbach, Zürich, Switzerland
35 years old
Birth of Daughter
Elisabetha Sidler (1779–)
21 Feb 1779 • Ottenbach, Zürich, Switzerland
36 years old
Birth of Daughter Anna
Sidler (1780–)
17 Jun 1780 • Ottenbach, Zürich, Switzerland
38 years old
Birth of Son Heinrich
Sidler (1781–1786)
16 Sep 1781 • Ottenbach, Zürich, Switzerland
39 years old
Birth of Son Jakob
Sidler (1783–)
12 Apr 1783 • Ottenbach, Zürich, Switzerland
41 years old
Birth of Son Hans
Ulrich Sidler (1784–)
28 Nov 1784 • Ottenbach, Zürich, Switzerland
42 years old
Death of Son Heinrich
Sidler (1781–1786)
23 May 1786 • Ottenbach, Zürich, Switzerland
44 years old
Birth of Son Hans
Kaspar Sidler (1786–)
05 Nov 1786 • Ottenbach, Zürich, Switzerland
44 years old
Birth of Son Melchior
Sidler (1788–)
27 Dec 1788 • Ottenbach, Zürich, Switzerland
46 years old
Death from Abschlaachung,
or TB
07 Jan 1801 • Ottenbach, Zürich, Switzerland
59 years old
Rudolf as a child:
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| Sidler and Hegetschweiler Temple Record by Julius Billeter, page 37 |
Rudolf as a husband and parent:
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| Sidler and Hegetschweiler Temple Record by Julius Billeter, page 49 - 50 |
